SEASON 2 EPISODE 7 - "OUT OF TIME"

WARNING SPOILERS ARE CONTAINED WITHIN!!!

Tonight’s episode was written by Aron Eli Coleite and directed by Dan Attias.

I know that many fans will be happy that this one brings many of last year's characters together again. This episode also concludes Peter’s story in Ireland and has Hiro leaving feudal Japan to return to the present (For good? Well at least until he needs to travel to the future!??)

And in the final scene - a big surprise - as we reveal who Adam Monroe is at the end of the episode… Okay, so how many of you saw that coming? Of course I’ve known for months and have become pretty blasé about it. Behind the scenes we all freely discuss the actor who plays Adam in both his incarnations. In fact he’s been playing both roles way back since episode 1 when he was naught but a shadowy figure on the Deveaux rooftop. But once we got finished with cutting the episode we started showing it to people who had never read the plot point. Lots of crew who work in the later stages of post production (i.e. sound mixers, color timers, etc.) had never read this scene and seemed to be completely caught by surprise when they saw Adam walk out in the last scene. Just a bit more than a week ago, we had a music spotting with Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman, our composers. This is the part in the process where we run the locked picture for the composers and music editors. It’s where we talk about where we want music in the show and what emotional quality we want the music to have. Wendy and Lisa, purposefully, never read the scripts. They’re, like, the worlds biggest fans of the show, and sometimes it’s hard to actually spot the music with them because they’re, like, “Shhhh, we’re watching this part!” Anyway, when Adam walked out at the end they both went, “No way!...No F*^$%?! Way!!!” Tim Kring and I looked at each other, shrugged and went “Hmm, I guess that part worked.” It’s funny, I swear, because we’ve been dealing with it for so long that I actually completely forgot it was supposed to be a surprise.

There were several fun projects for us on this one. Of course, sending Peter to the future was one of them. On a purely intellectual level this is fun, because early in prep we had a lot of discussions about WHICH future was this? It’s not the future from 5 years after the bomb blew up. It’s the future 1 year from now when the virus is released. Right away that started lots of spirited debates amongst the crew – So does the five-year-in-the-future-after-the-bomb still exist on an alternate timeline? Or did it fade away? If Peter has to go back to the future to save Caitlin at some point, how will he know which future to go to? That’s something I love about this show. You can be in the middle of, say, a props meeting and suddenly a metaphysical debate breaks out. Personally, whenever in doubt, I refer to BACK TO THE FUTURE 2 where Doc Brown (complete with chalkboard) clearly lays out how alternate timelines work.

For the opening sequence, where Caitlin and Peter are walking through a deserted NYC, we went to downtown Los Angeles on a Sunday morning. You’d be surprised how many pedestrians there are in downtown L.A. on a Sunday at 8 a.m. Our assistant directors were (politely) herding dozens of people out of every shot, just as we rolled. The visual effects guys matted in some key New York buildings, and I think that it looks pretty good. One thing I’m happy about is that the second shot of the scene – the one where they walk down the street – is all allowed to be played out in one long continuous take. The director did other shots that covered the dialogue between Peter and Caitlin in closer angles, as they walked. But in the editing room, Tim Kring and Dennis Hammer felt that the one long take was more elegant and dramatic - and I agree.

The CDC warehouse was filmed in a big deserted warehouse in Long Beach California. We made use of its infrastructure without too many changes. Even the big gates and fences where the people are being herded out pre-existed.

One interesting fact – Isaacc Mendez’s painting of Peter at the window of the future-morgue, which is one of the first images in the show, was painted by Tim Sale AFTER we shot the Peter scene. (It’s better all-around if Tim paints the paintings afterwards, because he can perfectly match the images we shoot. If he paints a painting ahead of time, we have to struggle to re-create them in production, (and sometimes issues like perspective make it really difficult to do this.) But the scene in which we see the painting in Russia, with HRG, was shot BEFORE. In fact it was seen in last weeks episode. What we did to make this possible is we painted a canvas with green-screen-green paint, and the visual effects guys tracked in Tim’s painting over the green canvas. That’s the kind of visual effect most people would never guess. Pretty cool, huh?

In Japan we got to blow up White Beards camp. Gary D’Amico is our special effects guy. His job is to rig any mechanical effects that we do, this ranges from flying rigs, to burning down houses, to shattering through doors – to blowing stuff up. And special effects guys all LOVE to blow stuff up. Now, I don’t know why, but I’ve ended up working on a lot of TV shows that have done a lot of special effects. Gary is the best I’ve worked with. Most special effects work takes a long time to rig and make safe. You can end up waiting around for, literally, hours on set waiting to do a big gag. And if it doesn’t go right the first time, that means you have to wait all over again for take two. Well, Gary’s stuff seems to always work right the first time. In fact, we originally planned to supplement the explosion with visual effects, but when we saw it in dailies, it seemed big enough just as it was.

The night that we did the explosion, we’re all standing out in this freezing cold field, having a lot of safety meetings. Gary explains that where we’re standing (about 100 yards from the blast) is probably safe, but that some pieces of wooden shrapnel could MAYBE get that far, so everyone should keep their eyes open. So, after that, most of the crew backs off to about 200 yards. We wait, and wait, and wait and wait… And now it’s finally time for the explosion. We roll the four cameras and finally… BOOM!!! I’ve been around a lot of movie explosions, but this one’s pretty big. A nice concussion. Then I hear “LOOK OUT!” I look back and behind me a huge spike of wood comes flying out of the sky. Several crew guys scatter, and DOINK it sticks perfectly into the ground, about 225 yards from the blast. Then, a second later, we hear a huge sparking sound, like ZSHHIZZITT! There’s a massive flash of green light, and then all the lights of all the houses that are seen in the distance, behind us, go blink! And turn off. We blew out a massive transformer and, supposedly, 7,000 houses lost power that night.

Just a little TV show.


GARY D’AMICO – HE BLOW’D IT UP REAL GOOD

One scene in this episode, which I think is particularly beautiful, is the scene under the cherry blossoms, where Hiro kisses Yaeko goodbye. This is one where we chased the light perfectly. See, we in the west love backlight and think it’s beautiful. You may not know this about yourself, but I bet you anything that you prefer backlight to frontlight. Even the Kodak box says, “Position the subject so that it is between you and the sun." I blame the Dutch Masters for this. It’s guys like Vermeer who made backlight so popular, and that predisposition sticks with us today.

So anyway, we set up the little grove of cherry trees so they faced west. We rehearsed the scene with Masi and Eriko and talked it out. And then we stalled and waited around until about 4 PM. At that time the backlight was perfect. Problem is it would only stay perfect until 5 or 5:30. This meant we had about an hour and a half to actually shoot the whole scene. It was okay though; Nate Goodman, the Director of Photography and the director had a plan. The first shot was a wide shot from the crane. Two effects men on two 20 foot hydraulic lifts threw cherry blossoms in front of two giant fans. The camera swooped in and around, and got, essentially the beginning and the end of the scene. This is called a “master” and it’s a good idea to do the widest shots first, they’re the most forgiving technically and it lets the actors get warmed up with their performances, so their ready for their close ups later. Then, still on the crane, the second shot was on a longer lens with a slow push in from the point where Masi steps forward saying “That’s not the way the story ended.” It moved around into a 50/50 (where the actors face each other so that you see 50% of one and 50% of the other) for the kiss. The original plan was to have Hiro blink out again, but on set the actors discussed how she had already seen him blink in and out several times. The decision was made, that, as the camera came in to really close profiles, Hiro would lean his forehead against hers and say “Sayonara.” Then, mathematically, four close ups where owed. One for each of the positions the two actors where in. Nate shot all of these shots in, basically, the same direction. Keeping the waning backlight behind them. By the time we got to Eriko’s last CU it was getting a little dark and he had to supplement the light a bit. Luckily, by now, the camera was on long lenses. Erkio was also encouraged to be very emotional in this scene. She really got to that sad place in, what I feel, is a very effective way. But, unlike Ali Larter and Hayden who seem to be able to cry pretty easily, crying like this was very upsetting to Eriko, and she ended every take quite distressed. Anyway, the entire effect of the scene, with the beautiful light and the strong emotions, I feel, works quite well. I hope you agree.

There’s one more thing I wanted to talk about, mostly because Nate Goodman was so excited about it. It’s about the scene where Matt is taken into Maury’s nightmare – the one set in his childhood home. The concept with the production design of the set was to create a real 70’s style apartment. The wallpaper is real garish with paisley wallpaper in one room, and loud green wallpaper in the other. So, cuing off this, Nate decided to light the set like a 70’s episode of NIGHT GALLERY. It’s a very retro technique that resulted in a very cool look. Nate used all hard light from above the set with lots of cucalorus’s. This means the lights were aimed directly onto the set from above, versus being bounced into some kind of a soft source. Cucalorus’s are just pieces of wood or metal painted black with patterns cut in them. This creates hard patches of light and shadow all over the set. I think it works real well. There's sometimes 3 or 4 shadows of the sctors on the wall at a time - real 70's TV style! I like it. There is something about that scene that looks different, but you can’t quite put your finger on it.

I also wanted to say that I think Stephen Tobolowsky is particularly good in this episode

Okay, that’s it for now. Next week there’s an episode, which I directed, entitled FOUR MONTHS AGO. It will answer many questions about this season that I know you fans have been eagerly awaiting.

ON TO THE PICTURES!!!!.....


HAYDEN ON A NIGHT SHOOT


STEPHEN TOBOLOWSKY HANGING WITH THE CREW


GREG GRUNBERG AND ADAIR TISHLER REHEARSING A VERY SERIOUS SCENE


ME - ON SET IN ADAM’S WAREHOUSE ("THERE’S LATTE FOAM IN THIS COFFEE CUP LID – I KNOW IT!")


DIRECTOR AND WRITER IN MIDDLE OF THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS


LEONARD ROBERTS SNEAKS UP ON SEDHIL - AND BACK INTO SEASON 2!


ALI AND LEONARD ON SET


JACK, MILO AND KRISTEN – I KNOW THEY’RE NOT IN THIS EPISODE, BUT I HAD THE PIX AND I KNOW YOU LIKE THEM!

Comments

bac said…
Let the record show this episode ROCKED.

Thank you, that is all.
Oscar said…
very good ... i really liked it ... i cant wait for next week ... and i gotta say if i could be anyone on the show it would be sylar ... he is my favorite ... i usually like the evil characters .... there rock!...


and im guessing we see how sylar looses his abilities .... and when does he regain these back?
Anonymous said…
I really love tonight's episode. Please keep delivering more of tonight for future Mondays.

- Paul
Barak said…
That episode was awesome! Can't wait for next week, looks to be another kick ass episode!
Jimmy said…
My jaw hung open for minutes at the end. My GOD this was fantastic.

Although I'm starting to suspect that Suresh DOES have a superpower:

Superduper-Gullibility. The man is the king of bad decisions.

Great work again - and thank you for the great inside scoop.
SwobyJ said…
Eriko did a GREAT scene. I know you loveeee when Hayden cries, but for viewers, at this point it looks VERY fake... it's about time she turns a more mature route and takes actions for herself, instead of just whining. It looks that way from the looks of this episode anyway so I'm not worrying :P

Back to Eriko! Since she didn't have practice showing such emotion on set, it showed. True distress beats dramatic distress hands down. Most probably knew she was to be the one to spread the legend, but it was still emotional seeing her fully know what was to happen (hiro leaving via time travel). In fact, this episode had 2 of the ONLY 4 moments this season that made me emotional:

1)West and Clare kissing above Hollywood. It wasn't the scene (which was corny..) but rather the feeling that West is gonna get her into some deep crap later that made me sigh.

2)Greg/Adrian fight. AWESOME. Got me totally into the show.

And from this episode:

1) Hiro goodbye scene *tear

2) Matt Parkman defeating his dad (or did his dad defeat himself?). Anywho, Matt's speech there, and the ... epicness of the scene (FINALLY a 'villain' is outright defeated in Heroes!) got me very caught up.

I hope to be a writer for tv productions so I LOVE your blog. Keep it up :)

Congrats on the first 'real' (sorry, but like 'Homecoming', it takes 1/3 or 1/2 of the season to actually get.. 'good') episode of the season. Things are coming together and I can't wait to see what happens.
Anonymous said…
i guess the strike doesnt include blogs...thats good

i hope greg keeps blogging thru the strike

oh, and word is kring has quit the series rather than film a wrap up for the season with epi 6

there is a god
Anonymous said…
This episode was incredible! And Greg Grunberg really stole the show for me this time. He was absolutely AWESOME!! And you can tell Grunny I said so!=0P And it was good to see D.L. again, if only briefly. Dude, do we really only have 4 episodes left?:0( Can't wait til next week-looks great! Thanks!! -Urainah
Amy said…
AWESOME episode.

It blew my mind that Peter actually left Caitlin (unintentionally) in the future. Pretty darn hardcore on the part of you writers/producers. Man, you guys, I was finally starting to like her, too. And now I am kinda hoping he manages to go back and rescue her, because 1) they're good together and 2) that's one heck of a horrific fate for anyone. Sigh. Three episodes ago, I would have been glad to see her go. How things change. It's painful but gripping how clear it is that Peter truly IS dangerous to those around him and those he loves. Simone's death last season, Ricky's death, Caitlin being trapped, and... whatever happened with Nathan, which I AM SO EXCITED WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT NEXT WEEK. Anyway, it's painful to watch, but it a good-drama sort of way, that this character who is so loving and empathic is so freaking dangerous.

And as for things that don't change, Nathan was awesome this week. Pasdar knocked those parts where Bob was telling him about Peter out of the park. Awesome. And then, totally unexpectedly, to me, Nathan went and got heroic, trying to save Niki from herself. Wow, did that drive home how he's changed. The old Nathan would have been out the nearest window, leaving ol' Bob to die and Niki to self-destruct. I must confess, I have a certain fondness for the Niki/Nathan pairing, though I am still holding out for a Nathan/Heidi reconciliation.

And, finally: Matt. Oh, my god, MATT. I loved him last season, though I did feel his storyline was one of the weaker ones. This season, he is proving himself worthy of that love and then some. Great performance from Grunberg. The bit where he declared himself a great father both broke my heart a little and made me cheer. It sounded as though he'd never called himself that before, but once he'd said it, he believed it, and that was really beautiful and powerful.

And, on a concluding note, thank goodness Hiro is back with Ando where he belongs. Those two are great together. :)
Anonymous said…
Loved the the episode.

I think the guy next to you in the picture had too much of your coffee. What do you use beans soaked in speed?

- Omega II
Tyson said…
Thanks for this great episode!!

These are the kinds of episodes that have me hooked. I would be happy to sit through several slow episodes in exchange for one episode like this. But, I suspect that we will have back to back fulfillment up through Episode 11. If the season has to end there, I will be having some serious withdrawals.

Best of luck to everyone on the show. This strike will cause major problems for everyone in the industry. But I cannot blame the WGA. I hope that the AMPTP realizes their folly before too much damage is done.
Alex said…
Nathan and Niki got unbelievable chemistry. I can't believe that of all the pairings you guys come up with, the after-thought one is actually the one that sizzles with chemistry. Well, it's a bit too late to do anything about this, isn't there? *shakes head*
SolutionNyne said…
Man, this one was just great. Well done! Best of the year!
Kayde said…
Amazing, insane, omfg the best episode this season so far! I am so happy about so many things, I knew there was a plan all along! WHY IS MOHINDER WAFFLING ON EVERYTHING!? I know he is conflicted, but to tell Bob about HRG, wtf! I was like "NOOOO!" EVERYONE was amazing in this episode, Adrian, Greg, Milo, Masi, Sendhil, Ali, aaaahhhh! I am SO glad feudal Japan is over! I am SO glad Peter has some memory back! I am SO glad Molly is awake! I am SO glad that Matt Parkman is finally kickass, and not only in the future! Yes, I am slightly overexcited. A great Heroes episode does that to me. :D
Mary said…
First let me say... whatever difficulties are upon you with the writers' strike, and I'm sure they are many, I am really pulling for everybody involved. For the writers to get their just due and the panic situation to just, end.

With that said...

Amazing episode!!!

The set decoration in Matt/Molly's nightmare really jumped out at me. Had a very Tim Burton nightmarish feel, but it also felt so real, the way bad childhood fears can distort in your mind even years later, you know? Kudos to Greg Grunberg for just nailing every single scene he did.

I loved the pacing in this episode, it was just tight. Every scene was like a pulse of energy.

Can I also say, Mohinder's confession at the end was so great - on the one hand I was yelling "NO YOU FOOL!" On the other hand, I felt really, really bad for the character basically being up a creek. Ramamurthy sold the vulnerability really well, can you give him that kind of scene with an fellow adult who's not completely evil?
Serena said…
hecka awesome episode!!! can't wait till the next episode!
Mister N said…
When the heroes don't know who they are

I will briefly put all that happened on tonight's episode:


-Hiro fights kensei
-West finds out about claire's dad
-Nathan discovers that peter is alive
-nightmare man is using Niki to kill Bob
-Peter apparently regains his memory in the future
- A virus kills 93 of the population in the future
- Parkman finds Molly, faces his dad and is victorious
- Molly wakes up
- Hiro travels back to the present
- Peter travels back to the present leaving Caitlin behind in the future
- Niki is infected, and Suresh can't use his antibodies
-Hiro learns about his father's dead
- Suresh has to find Claire to use her abilities
- Suresh is unsure of who's right and who's wrong, which makes him confess to Bob about his affiliation with Bennet
- Bennet learns about Claire's boyfriend and her rebellious attitude
- Peter is still confused and meets Adam/Kensei


Before I explain my point, I'd like to express my respect for other people's opinion about his episode.
Also, that my intention is not to trash this show. Basically, present a constructive and objective critique of how's being handled lately (again in my opinion).

Back again to my points, if you read them again you'll find that it was too much, it seems that in the past 7 episodes the story is trying to build some momentum for some future episodes. Which ironically was announced. Episode 8 is THE EPISODE that will solve everybody's questions. It will clarify what the fans have been wondering about.

It seems that the show was looking for the SHOCK factor, rather that what it built from last season, a really good story in 23 outstanding episodes.

I do not fully expect to be blown away by next episode. Shakespeare's title says it all: " Much Ado about nothing".

Episode 8 and we'll get our questions answered?...I mean..what about the big picture. You might be answering BASIC questions , without showing the big question: What is the main plot line of the season?, is it the virus, the person who's trying to kill the old heroes, the current heroes' problems?.

Again, I still watch the show but I do not expect anything that will make me say: 'That was the best show I've ever seen' ...if that happens I will write that on this blog..several times.

quick closing point about the title of this comment. Why, why , why, do the powerful characters must always go through identity crisis (Peter). It's been 50 years at least of reading about this. I mean, I know you've read comics and wrote comics (Jeph Loeph - Batman, Superman )so why follow that line all the time. Why not make something more advanced, new, creative, etc.

Cheers, hope it all goes well with the Writer's strike.

Sincerly, an unemotional fan...it's just not the same show anymore.
Ophelia said…
*sigh* Why does Nathan always have to die on every future iterations? I'd be nice to see him alive and well. It makes me really stressed out about his future on the show.

Other than that, it's a great episode but it really makes me worry about what will happen in episode 11.
Absolutely wonderful! This episode was excellent. GREAT way to reveal Adam, leaves much more questions for next week. I for one think that this is the return of the Heroes we all love. One tiny knack though, Mohinder discovering that the new strain was immune to his blood seems a bit too... passive?
Bonnie said…
I just loved this episode, it was probably the best so far of the season. Cannot wait for next week! Keep them coming!

Good luck with the strike! I don't want to suffer too long without any new tv.
rekkair said…
I'm liking where this show is going, now that it's picking up from the lackluster episodes that the season started off with. The biggest weak point is still West though. I'm not sure whether he has bad lines, horrible chemistry with Claire, being badly cast, can't act, or what exactly, but his scenes are always the most painful to watch. It just feels so obviously forced. But hey, at least thanks for giving the opportunity to finally kill Niki/Jessica off, I've been waiting for that one for a while.


And best of luck on the Writer's strike. I just hope that Tim truly isn't off the show for good as I've been hearing around the internet. His writing and direction I think makes up much of the heart of the show.
B as Always said…
Brilliant!!!

This show is unparalleled!

As wonderful as this show is week-to-week, tonight's episode was the best! Every part of it was fantastic. And the ending, where Adam was/is Kensei?! Wow!!!
Anonymous said…
Fantastic episode: Matt defeating his dad, Hiro's return to present day, Caitlin getting left in the future, the reveal at the end... Mr. Muggles! I love what you guys are doing, and I'm really excited for next week's episode :)

That said, I really hope the issue with the writers' strike is resolved and that the writers get what they are asking for. Thanks so much for working so hard, especially during this stressful time, and more specifically thank you Greg for providing us with a behind-the-scenes look at production and filming the episodes. Love the pictures too!
x23 said…
best episode this season..finally heroes is back on track. i'm so glad peter's storyline in ireland is done and that he accidentally left caitlin in the future *evil grin* hehehe..please don't let peter save her..they don't have chemistry at all. and now hiro's back ..yay! and kensei is adam..woohooo! west and claire, i hope their relationship ends soon. he's creepy and likes to fly away too much..
Anonymous said…
I heard about the writer's strike. Does this mean Heroes is going to end really soon?
HEROCKS said…
Best episode of the season so far! Keep up the good work. I just wanted to point out that the next episode you directed is called FOUR MONTHS AGO and not FOUR MONTHS LATER (you confused with the season premiere).
trac54 said…
This episode totally rocked.
No Kristen Bell :(

My reaction was totally the same. ADAM MONROE!
Anonymous said…
So is it the real Kensei or is it a descendant. It would make sense if it was Kensei because I suppose if you can heal you won't ever get old. And he did say he would make Hiro suffer and he's the one that killed his father. So he waited around 400 years to get revenge on Hiro for stealing his girl. I hope there will be showdown in a future episode.

Overall- great episode. Can't wait for next week.
Anonymous said…
Great episode. I loved the Adam Monroe reveal! And that future? Hearing Peter yell "Hello?" brought back great memories of 28 Days Laterl.

Please tell me that Mohinder's "confession" is not an act of stupidity? He's one of my favourite characters and I have...hope...that there is a lot more going on with him. It's far too easy to label him as gullible and he has certainly showed he is much more aware than he usually gets credit for.

All the best to the writers during this strike!
Anonymous said…
I loved this episode. Definately loved it.
However, please please, PLEASE do not kill off HRG. Not permanently anyway. Please. Pretty please. He is one of the characters that I've come to love the most and I cannot honestly imagine the show without him.
Anonymous said…
Bacci-

Accoding to devotedtoheroes.com and tv guide, They filmed an alternate ending to episode 11 in case the strike happens.

In that case it won't be on hiatus and it will just be the season finale instead.

Which sucks, but at least there will be some resolution.

Awesome episode, can't wait for next week.
Josh said…
Great episode!

To those wondering why Mohinder came clean with Bob, you've got to realize... he just found a powerful, new virus - probably one of his biggest fears. Not knowing the virus' potential leaves him helpless, and he has always been a "for the good of humanity" type guy. I think he's going to do near everything he can to attempt to cure the virus Shanti virus.
leana from france said…
Great episode!! Even West was bearable...A lot of arcs started to meet,tension is coming, bad people are really mean ( Matt's dad is a masterpiece of a Villain!!)stupid people are still silly (Mohinder saying about HRG to Bob??)And most of all, we get rid of those slow and boring 'love stories': West is leaving his cheerleader, Hiro is leaving his Princess and Peter is losing her Caitlin somewhere in the future (clever guy ;-)
I can't wait for Sylar to 'brainkill' his new date:-) Back to the real 'Heroes'series! YESSSSS!
Anonymous said…
I can't even begin to tell you how excited I am that Leonard Roberts is back!! At least, in some form....

This was an AMAZING episode!!!! This might end up as my favorite for the season (though next week looks VERY promising)!!
Hellscreamer said…
Great episode! I'm glad Heroes is back to form (and lets hope for some weeks :D). I'm very glad to see the two most dissapointing plots ending, or sort of at least (Hiros and Peters). One question that I hope might be answered next week: What will or could happen to Heroes because of the WGA strike? I read somewhere the season could end at ep 11 which of course would leave a big big gap on my tv lineup. Big hugs guys!

Gabe.-
Anonymous said…
Is it Hell Screamer or Hell's Creamer?
John said…
This episode finally got back on track. In answer to your question, who guessed that Adam Monroe was Kensei? Just about everyone....it wasn't that big a reveal. I was just happy that some of the bad story lines came to resolution and the main thread started moving forward.

I do think you guys go overboard with every shot having confetti from the sky (NY virus, the bomb, cherry blossoms, etc).

I like what the writers have done with Parkman this season. He's about the only season 1 character that's actually evolved.

I look forward to seeing what happened after the bomb next week.
LBM said…
Angela, Angela Angela! Never kill her. She need to teach our heroes what they can do. :)And look fabulous doing it.
John said…
oh yeah, while I certainly hope that the writers strike get resolved, I'm firmly behind the writers. They are the primary drivers of the shows I love and the deserve to get a cut of the residuals. Hopefully the resolution will involve enough foresight to get the writers a cut of ad revenue as more and more shows skip syndication and instead are streamed online.
Jemiah said…
"Out of Time" was a fantastic episode, and it felt like a sudden payoff of the season as a whole (which really does hold up better when watched all together, and not an episode at a time). Thanks again for the blogs, Greg - and keep 'em coming! Good luck and cheers from a fellow writer!
z said…
that was... awesome! hahah At the end of the episode I kept running around saying oh my god.. heroes! hahah..

Shirtles Milo.... ahhhhh........ xD

By the way.. about Adam! haha I KNEW ITT! well there was a small discussion in a forum about how it could be Kensei because Adam in the biblical sense lived millions of years.. so yeah it kinda made sense.. was that a coincidence?

Best ep in season 2 so far.. but something tells me ep 8 will beat this..

thank you!
Anonymous said…
I didn't know kensei was adam. I was shocked and it was a total "no effing way" moment. I loved it.
CosmicAvatar said…
Wow. What can I say? I got sniffly, I screamed, I uttered many profanities. Fab ep!
Anonymous said…
You guys need to get out more *g* - On most boards I frequent people were speculating that Kensei must be the big bad as far back as episode 2 - fairly predictable (perhaps because the old japan story line seemed to .... slow and underwhelming)

Agreed, the painting tracking shot was good though.


Don't agree about Eriko, I thought they had zero chemistry, and never found her very likeable, unlike Coleman and Hayden in Company Man - this was just a meh 'get it over with' goodbye.
Henry said…
I love Nathan and Niki's chemistry. Nathan was cool as well with him telling Bob to just stop with the lies. I just wish he gets to do more action/adventure stuff with Peter. I like him better this season since he gets to be investigator with Matt. Could you guys please give him another power or let him develop his flying power into something cooler?
Great episode. Thanks for the mega payoff, i.e. "Adam" revealed. Will you guys be posting anyting about the changes this season due to the potential writer's strike?
Mariana said…
the last one pic totally rock!!
Anonymous said…
Dear Greg,

Awesome episode! But did you have to get my hopes up by FINALLY sending Caitlin away, only to raise the possibility that Peter might go looking for her in your blog? Please, let Caitlin stay away. PLEASE.

The Angela-Peter scenes completely rocked my world. Oh my god.
Anonymous said…
Hey Greg - I'm completely addicted to this blog now - your insight into each episode is fab, and I love the pictures (especially of ZQ - keep them coming!). Since you mentioned the music, I was wondering - do you have any idea if they're going to release the score on cd at some point? I particularly fell in love with "Sylar/Gabriel's theme" as used in The Hard Part (during the scene with his mother). If you can pass it along to the right people, I'm sure I'm not the only fan interested in the OST.

And great, great ep this week. I feel like things are finally on a roll, plot wise. Now we can only hope the writer's strike resolves itself relatively soon, so we can continue to see awesome eps like this!

- Alexa
smumdax said…
Very good show, liked it a lot...

I was totally surprised to see who was Adam Monroe at the end! I'm not someone who analyzes a lot what he sees and just likes to listen and be entertain. So for others saying they knew it, well good for them, but I think half the fun is to just listen and let it be, instead of trying to figure everything out. Kinda like watching a magician do is illusions.

I liked Hiro's intro saying (I suppose) "Last week on Heroes".. lol.. Made me laugh a lot.

And am I the first to mention that the opening credits were not the usual shades of orange-light red colors? It was green this time... Why is that?? I've never noticed a color change in any other episodes. Anyone?

Something I'm wondering about Hiro. he can freeze and travel throught time quite easily. When he kissed Eriko last week, and then Kensei saw it, why not simply travel a couple minutes back and tell himself not to do it??

Or how about freezing time, get down in White Beards camp and, while everyone is freezed, cut all the throat you can find??

I am also wondering something about Caitlin being caught in the future... What will happen to her if somehow the timeline is changed so that there is no virus epidemic? From our point of vue(POV), if the epidemic is prevented, and we go forward in time at the very moment that Peter & Caitlin arrived there in the first place, then we shouldn't see the quarantined future.


However, so won't Peter and Caitlin. Cailtin might be stuck, but it's not like 100 years later, it's just one year. So when from our POV we arrive at the moment, Peter will just have to go at the very place he arrived the firt time... but, then Peter won't be in the same future where is mother help him get his memory back...

So if she doesn't help him, then he won't come back to our present day, and probably help stop the epidemic...

This is soooo confusing. In the blog, you talk about refering to Back to the Future II's chalk board to get out of this... well... I've made one just to help me think.

In most basic terms:
We are at the moment Now.
We travel to the future at a point X.
At the point, we learn something about our past that made the future like it is.
We go back to the moment Now, and make a change so that the future we saw won't happen.
A new timeline is created, thus the first future we saw does not exist anymore.
If so then... what happens with Caitlin????

Not that I care much, I'm just really into this time traveling thing...!! :D
Anonymous said…
Best episode of the season. I'm glad to see my show back. Now all I need is the reunion of the Petrelli brothers and everything is right again in the Heroes world.
Viv said…
I'm so glad the show is back on track! I loved it. "Out of Time" is definitely the best episode of the season. I do hope episodes 9 to 11 will conclude and crescendo the arc (have no doubts Four Months Ago will rock b/c you're you).

I think it's purely coincidental that the best episode of the season is the one that reunites the Season 1 cast. I tend to think it's really the weaving together of all the disparate storylines that had been strewn haphazardly throughout the previous six episodes that made it really come together. I do hope the rest of the episodes in Volume 2 are more of the same.

I especially liked:

- Nathan connecting with Niki, convincing her to stand down. Wonderful, subtle call back to Season 1.
- Bob - he makes a really good "morally grey" character. Great counterpoint to Noah. Would like it even more if there is a further parallel (maybe he has a petite blonde daughter?)
- Matt finally giving Maury some of his own medicine and saving Molly. Too cute.
- Shirtless!Peter showering (better than shirtless!Peter)
- Noah losing grip on his temper with Claire, because tension produces great drama
- Mohinder not knowing which way to turn. It's great b/c Mohinder is kind of the audience's touchstone for the story, and to have him confused is to plunge us in further confusion.

If Peter has to go back to the future to save Caitlin at some point, how will he know which future to go to?

LOL. Do you mean there's a question about whether he will go back to save her? I'm not the biggest Caitlin fan going around, but it is a bit rough on the poor lass, leaving her in the future like that. I'm sure Peter will be too much of a gentleman to leave her there. Although it does beg the question - if Peter succeeds in saving the world (version 2), what happens to Caitlin then? She'll be stuck in a different future. Will she remember Peter or the events that brought her to the future?

And agree, there are lots of permutations regarding timelines. I'll leave it to the experts to decide.

All in all, Heroes rocked again this week. Awesome!

PS. I'm sad there will be an unintended break after Volume 2. I totally support what the writers are doing and it's awesome that the show (and Tim Kring) are standing by your team. Much love.
Sara Endellman said…
I liked Hiro's intro saying (I suppose) "Last week on Heroes".. lol.. Made me laugh a lot.

Did he say this in Japanese in the Canadian version? As in:

「ヒーローズの前回までのあらすじ」

Heroes no zenkai made no arasuji
(Previously on Heroes)

Anyway, good episode this week. Some comments:

1. The confrontation between Hiro and Kensei was tense. Having said that, I don't like the idea that Kensei is immortal. Has anyone attempted to aim use a shotgun or magnum on his brain? I just think it's ridiculous that some of the characters in this series are so over-powered while others can barely do anything.

2. Nathan being tender with Niki and just generally being a potential leader material was awesome. He's really a much more interesting character now that he's kinder and honest. I think of all the characters in the series, Nathan is the one who has shown growth from his experiences. I hope the series will continue to show his progress and don't regress him back to his former personality.

3. Niki was actually pretty good this time around. It shows that if you write her properly, she could be as interesting as the other characters. I can't believe that she got injected with the virus instead.

4. The episode was effective mostly because there's a lack of new characters. The only new characters on screen was Kensei, whose storyline was necessary for the plot and West, who's really not that necessary and can get sucked into 747 jet engine.

Overall, however, good job. I hope this continues in the future. I'm really looking forward to that flashback episode next week. Although, I think you guys should have screen that as the first episode this season. I think many people are either too impatient to wait for the explanation or they just don't have the insight as to how things will work together. I have to admit that if I don't read spoilers, I'd probably be annoyed with the lack of answer of what happened 4 months ago.
Anonymous said…
smumdax...

I don't know if you've noticed all the shows on NBC have had something Green about it. It's not Heroes its the network. Some kind of environmental thing.
kriskramer said…
Not bad. I enjoyed this episode, but let me stress that my enjoyment was tempered by the fact that I really thought the show was losing what made it great. But this episode came through for me, since it finally started tying together a lot of seemingly unrelated loose threads. One thing that bothered me, though, was how busy this episode was. Try and space that stuff out so there aren't so many weaker episodes.

I'm with the guys who saw the Kensei/Adam thing coming, but that doesn't make it any less cool. I'm still underwhelmed by him as a central bad guy, but I'm now hopeful that I'll be pleasantly surprised.

At some point I really need to get my thoughts down on the one main thing that still annoys me about this show, and that's the clunky dialogue. I know you have to squeeze a lot in to each episode, and that makes it hard to make all of the conversations in the show flow more naturally than they do now, but still...

Anyway, I'll leave that for a later post. I liked Ep 7, and Ep 8 looks like another interesting one as well.
Anonymous said…
Yay for Peter interacting with more people again! It was one of the things I loved most about last season, and I've been sorely missing it this season. His scenes with Angela and Adam this episode were so, so good.
Anonymous said…
I love Heroes and this episode is one of the reasons why. Greg Grundberg totally rocked this episode. He was great! Thanks for an awesome show!

Good luck to all the writers!!!!
Jeff's Place said…
Greg-
Awesome episode!
Can't wait for the next one!

Boy I hope Origins isn't totally gone! It sounded like it has a lot of possibilites!!!

Thanks again for a GREAT show!!!

BTW: I had a feeling about Adam, but when it was revealed...DAMN!! I let out a huge "Oh Man!!! YEAH!!"
DWoodruff said…
I knew Greg B. in junior high school when he started a club (three members I believe) whose symbol was a seven headed blob of pudding - an intentional rip off of the Symbionese Liberation Army's logo. How am I not surprised that he is connected with something as outlandish (but still I am a fan) as Heros.

Great job Greg
Victoria said…
This episode was, without a doubt, the strongest of the season and I'm so glad to see the show get back that old 'Heroes' kick we missed so much. Kudos :)
P.S. You mentioned something about there possbily being a problem if Peter were to try and return to when he left Caitlin... to that I say... does he REALLY have to?
Anyway, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to give us our 'Heroes' fix. It is truly appreciated :)
Mike said…
what are your thoughts on the EW article http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html
Anonymous said…
Regarding the article. I may be in the minority, but I've the "slow" build up in the story telling this year. Sure some characters I could do without namely Maya and Alejandro..but overall I've enjoyed it. As for this episode...it was one of the best so far this season. It had excellent pace, great story telling and acting. Oh and how cool was it to see DL again? He was one of the characters from last season I really liked and It was good to see him pop in. Now if you guys can figure a way to bring Issac back, then all will be well. Anyways Great blog, keep up the brilliant work.
Hasula said…
hehe, well i was kinda guessing Adam would be Takezo...this episode was awesome however...cant wait for next weeks episode.
stikfigur said…
I think we can all agree that Bob kind of show this episode. As I said in one of my recaos, he walked the morally gray line like a catwalk. Altogether, this episode was so engaging I was bummed when it ended. Bring on episode 8!
Anonymous said…
Can we PLEASE get some clarification as to what the older generation's powers were, if any? Angela's been around for a season and a half now: no idea what her power is or if she's even really got one.

Hiro's father. Did he have a power or not? Hiro didn't ask that ever-so obvious question when he was having that samurai training session.

It's getting frustrating (aside from the dragging "romances" on the show) to not have some things answered.

Nikki's power situation hasn't even been clarified. Does SHE have the power, or Jessica? Was her twin superpowered as well, and did Jessica have a power similar to the boy Mohinder saw in India, who could go into your dreams? What? Or is she a 'simple' case of split personality, as Bob mentioned.

Please lose Caitlin in the future time-line. I honestly don't give a fig if she stays lost there - she is as useless as Simone was in the first season; she's only there to give Peter his romantic motivation. I'd rather he cared more for his brother and mother and got reinvolved in his family dynamics. He's boring without them.

I won't even go into how cliched and agonizingly idiotic Hiro's romance with his situational ethically challenged "princess". It's hard to believe that Adam/Kenzai is the type of guy to really care THAT much, after 400 years, to turn Big Bad over one failed romance. I didn't get to know him well enough as a character to get that sense of him.

And West? I hope he's working for Adam and giving Claire stupid-drugs, because that's the only reason I can think of for her to go so far out of character. He's a stalker. His logic sucks. He's an infuriating know-it-all that I can't see Claire talking to, let alone making out with.

Yes, please: dump the romances and useless love interests.

Julie
Anonymous said…
Is West intentionally written as kind of an a-hole stalker? I mean every step of the way he's completely broken all sorts of personal boundaries, and Claire fawns over it like it's no big deal. He invites himself into the house, looks in her windows, and just sort of has this unlikeable attitude about him.

There HAS to be something up with him, or he's working with someone else. He's not written as the type of guy a cheerleader would swoon over, unless you guys think stalking a girl makes them like you.
Anonymous said…
I don't think West is working with anyone becuase of his fear of HRG. I do think something is up though because something just isn't right about him. Although he could just be a bad actor.
Christine =D said…
Fantastic episode! One of my favorites so far. Even though the scene when Hiro came back to the present & was reunited with Ando was great, what really made the scene sad is when Hiro was asking for his father and Ando had told him he was murdered just the look on Hiros face when Ando told him made you really sad . I wonder what Hiro will do now. I really hope the writers strike doesn't last long, HEROES is such a great show I hope you guys won't be to affected by it, Keep the great episodes coming. =D

-Christine =D
Rachel uk said…
Great episode!!!!!!!!!! That Matt/Molly story arc just breaks my heart, fantastic. Ive loved all of season 2 so far so feel a little bewildered by the ratings slump and Tim Kring's admission of 'mistakes'. I hope it dosen't lower morale on set/behind the scenes because I think you guys are doing an excellent job!

Can't wait to see 'Four Months Ago'!
Ji0 said…
Great episode, the best of the season by far. I've been slowly getting disinterested with Heroes but this episode sucked me right back into the addiction. Now I can't wait for "Four Months Before".

As for Adam Monroe, it was kind of easy to guess if you followed the dialogues closely through out the episode. The fact that the 12 "trapped" him and did not kill him was for me, the give away. It was a great twist. Now I'm more interested if Claire will also likewise become immortal and if Adam/Kensei has developed other powers aside from regeneration/immortality.

This was the only episode that got me to appreciate Parkman in the series. Before, I wanted him dead simply because it would be a great plotline IMHO. But in this episode, Parkman was wow.

Although I agree that the revelations in this episode could've been spaced better among the previous below average episodes, I still think this was one of the best episodes for a long time. (Yes, even better than the crappy ending of season 1.)
Luke said…
Amazing amazing episode! But how many episodes are left before the WGA strike takes full effect?
nerdinpink said…
I saw it coming, but that was the best episode. The idea sort of dropped into my head mid-episode. I never make these sort of predictions, and when I told my mom (who was watching with me) she didn't believe me at all. Now when he came out at the end, I screamed.
nerdinpink said…
Blegh, I meant best part.
Anonymous said…
I know this has already been said countless times, but i just can't indulge myself so badly without giving something back (especially after realizing just how much work has been put in, reading your post, greg), be it a few lame words of encouragement:

This episode was freaking AMAZING.


That is all, thank you. :)
Finding out Adam's true identity wasn't really a surprise to me, Greg. Right from the moment I learned that he had impressive healing abilities, I knew that he would soon be revealed as a major player at The Company, if not the head of the entire organization.

Maybe it's because I'm a sci-fi/fantasy writer, but it was just so easy to connect the dots.

I'm loving season two so far, and hope that the writers strike will end in a timely manner so that y'all can get back to work making one of the coolest TV shows ever.
Anonymous said…
That was the best episode I have seen in the series too date. I was blown away ALL the way through....and that last scene left me in awe. Awesome job guys and gals. Thanks for such a wonderful show :)
Anonymous said…
I cannot tell you how happy I was to learn that Kring has heard and subsequently pinpointed exactly where Season 2 has misfired. Now I am wondering if the apparent pilfering of the Alias cast is going to continue and we will see Jack Bristow anytime soon. This past episode was so good, at least in part, because it began to clean up some of the misfirings.

Please for the love of Pete, (no pun intended) let Peter finally come into his own. Last season his self-doubt kept him down and now this season's amensia is making him a total wimp. Its frustrating to watch the man with every power imaginable get beat up by thugs and be powerless to rescue Caitlin, but then hurl electricity at will when it does no good.

Adam the head of the company? So his desire for revenge on Hiro is causing the deaths of all the previous generations of heroes that did something so terrible that mama petrelli cant say? Good luck Chuck explaining that in a coherent way.

Finally there is a fine line between being a challenge and being a tease. Challenge is good, tease is bad and mama petrelli is becoming the latter. Apparently the tension between balancing fan interest against good story telling is causing some bad decisions concerning who lives/dies, and how to develop characters.

This is still a great show, but definitely still slipping.
Brandon said…
Wait...if Kensei hasn't aged...will Claire stay that age for the rest of her LIFE???

P.S. I love the new greenish eclipse.
Anonymous said…
wow, micah and monica would be very sucessful and famous in entertainment industry.. and making a lot of money and fans (monica)... hahahha and micah will defeat mr.bill gates hahaha

but Bob is the richest Heroes I think... he is IMBA
Kathi said…
Absolutely loved this episode- especially the Matt,Maury and Molly "nightmare" sequence. WELL DONE! Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, what is it with all the "M" names anyway? (Matt, Molly, Mohinder, Maya, Monica, Micah, Maury...do the writers have a love for all things M?)

Yes, those in our house saw the Kensei/Adam connection coming a mile away- but it was still way cool when he actually made big entrance!

If I have only one small quibble with this episode it has to do with Mohinder's bandaged nose. I don't think it was intended to be humorous but my entire family couldn't stop laughing...I mean that was a HUGE freaking bandage! It made Mohinder look like a wimp. We assume that is was made that large to give the opportunity for all the clueless watchers to make the connection ("WOW, THAT'S MOHINDER IN THE PAINTING! SEE, HE HAS A BANDAGE ON HIS NOSE JUST LIKE IN THE PAINTING!"), but it came across way to comical.

Anyway, thanks for your blogs! We love getting any inside scoop about our favorite show...
NavStar said…
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NavStar said…
Sorry, but the product placement in this episode was really obnoxious. Next week, Claire's cell phone gets its name in the opening credits.

However, I really appreciate the honesty in this week's Ent Weekly. The show needs exactly those "fixes" to bring it to season 1 goodness. Right now, Heroes is in a Lost season 3/Alias season 3 funk of trying to get back on track.
Anonymous said…
Navastar-

It's the product placements that reduce the number of commercials.
sandmoran said…
I am so glad you agree that Stephen Tobolowsky was very good in this episode. He is my favorite character, and I am always very happy to see him continue to survive.
Andre Luis/Brasil said…
you know, i had a glimpse of a scene that had stuck in my mind, i can't recall from which episode, but it made me think that Kensei was behind everything, or quite everything. maybe because of the mysterious symbol. but when Hiro decided to stay in Japan when he was about to return, and when he kissed the "princess", i got it. i was quite sure Takezo ('cause i didn't know at the time he was Adam), was responsible for what is happening in the modern days... like the deaths (the ones not caused by Sylar, of course), the attack on Mrs.Petrelli, the symbols marked on the photos...
i wasn't much surprised when i saw the end of the episode, cause i was kind of guessing it, and i'm quite sure the eclypse also has something to do with everything...
but i might be wrong... he he
anyway, the show is getting even better. it's hard to wait one week for the next episode... amazing
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