BEEMAN’S BLOG - SEASON 3 - EPISODE 9

“IT’S COMING"

WARNING: GOVERNMENT ADVISORY – SPOILERS AHEAD – PLEASE PROTECT YOUR FAMILY FROM SPOILERS

Tonight’s episode was written by Tim Kring and was directed by Greg Yaitanes. This is Greg’s second episode of HEROES – his first was Season Two’s most awesome “CAUTIONARY TALES.”

Greg is the subject of this blog’s interview. He is an excellent director – perhaps one of the the best all-around directors I’ve ever had a chance to work with. The industry obviously agrees with this as he was also the winner of the Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series Emmy this year for an episode of HOUSE.

I find Greg to be characterized by great intelligence as well as a hard work ethic. He plans a lot. He is also easy to work with, because he approaches everything in a very causal way – no matter how complex. He also prepares more diligently and shoots as fast as any director I’ve met. Here's his credits: GREG YAITANES.

GREG BEEMAN: First of all, Greg, let me congratulate you for your Emmy win this year. What was that experience like for you – specifically when you have to go up in front of thousands of people live and millions of people watching on TV and give an acceptance speech?

GREG YAITANES: It was truly an out of body experience. I was up against, mostly, pilots. So I had no expectation of winning. I just wanted to enjoy the experience. When I won it was amazing. It’s a neat thing to have accomplished at this point in my 38 years of life.

GB: I had a similar experience a few years ago. I won the Director’s Guild Award, which isn’t televised. But still you walk on stage and there are lights in your eyes and thousands of dim faces watching you silently. For me, time slowed, and I had no idea what I was saying…

GY: It’s funny because we’re going to be talking about an episode in which a dream sequence is a big part of it. When my name was called everything seemed to go into the language of dreams. My name was called. Then suddenly I was in the aisle. Then suddenly I was on stage. I didn’t have anything prepared, which was fine because nothing in my brain was working to remember a prepared speech. But, luckily, when they called my name and I looked over at my wife smiling and clapping, two things came into my mind. The first was that, during the whole of the shoot on HOUSE, I had my cell phone velcroed to the front of the monitor. Because my wife was pregnant and due at any time. That whole shoot happened with me wondering when I would get the call. And also, when my name was called as a nominee there was a thunderous applause, and I realized that I had worked with many many people in the room -- so many talented people. And those two ideas gave me something to focus on when I gave my speech. Afterwards my wife said I made sense, so I was glad.

GB: What was it that made you want to become a director?

GY: I’m from a small town just outside of Boston. It was so small that it didn’t have cable until I was about fourteen. And with cable came public access and that’s where I first became interested in film. I wasn’t that athletic. I wasn’t especially great in school. I loved movies though, and I became the guy with the handheld camera taping the football games.

Originally I was going to get into psychology, but I also had a strong interest in film. I came to California and, in my mind, I was going to let what happened out here determine which path I’d take. Gradually film became what won out.

I went to film school at USC. I had excelled there, but I never got the opportunity to make one of the official films there. I wasn’t selected by the faculty to direct or even to pitch to make a film. It was odd. So, as it was getting time to leave school, I went outside of the school to make a film. A professor there, Rick Edelstein, who is still my mentor, arranged a class for me where I could get school credit for a film I made outside of school. I got Panavision to donate some cameras, I got Universal to donate an editing room. I scraped together $18,000, begged, borrowed and stole - and made the movie.

This was at the tail end of when short films would still help you get considered for features – around 1992 to 1993. It was a time of transition. But, still, it got me the chance to do a movie – a one million dollar film called HARD JUSTICE. I was about 24 when it was made, and it’s just awful. But they cut a great trailer from it. I spent a good year putting together the elements and going after what I wanted. I had ended up editing across the hall from John Woo, who was making his first American movie HARD TARGET. I got to know him, and admire him, and became familiar with all his work. And whatever else can be said about it, I am very proud to say, with certainty, that my movie was the first American-made John Woo knock-off.

After that I ended up doing re-enactments for AMERICA’S MOST WANTED which led to episodes of Jerry Bruckheimer’s first television series SOLDIER OF FORTUNE, which led to DOUBLE-TAP which was a Joel Silver/Richard Donner production. I got that one after a meeting where I had to wait 7 hours in the lobby to meet Richard Donner.

GB: So… The consistent thread I see in all of this is – persistence.

GY: Yes. Persistence. I’ve got to say that if I have any edge, that is what gives me the edge. Others would give up and I just didn’t. I saw so many others give up when things got a little hard. But my dad instilled in me a great work ethic. I was doing every odd job from the time I was a kid.

In fact, one of my favorite stories, from my Dad, is about Joe DiMaggio. Late in his career, the Yankees were up by 10 games late in the season and they were up by 5 runs in the 7th inning. And, still, Joe Dimaggio was diving for every fly ball, and running out every ground ball and sliding into third. And some rookie asked him, “Joe why are you killing yourself. We’re way ahead.” And Dimaggio looked into the stands and said “Because someone out there is watching me play for the first time.” And that’s what I’ve learned. No matter what your reputation or how good you’ve done in the past it’s always about doing your best. With the gypsy nature of TV – you have to keep delivering. No matter how you’ve done elsewhere, on every job you are working with people for the first time, and they will be having a first impression of you. So you always have to do your best. Every time.

GB: So, let’s talk about HEROES in general before we talk about the episode, specifically. What is you’re experience of HEROES, from a directorial standpoint.

GY: It’s the hardest job I’ve ever had in TV. HEROES requires all the skills I’ve learned on every other project combined. It has all the genre work from the features and syndicated TV I’ve done. It requires extreme knowledge of visual effects. Of stunts and action. It pulls you in every direction at once. Also, working with actors is so important on this show. You’ve always said to me, beyond “See the spaces, see the faces..” "Performance is what matters most." I think the thing I like best about HEROES is the collaboration with the actors, which is both accepted and appreciated.

To give an example, there is no other show I work on which I storyboard as much as a necessary tool for communication. There is no other show that is as stylistically complicated. There is no other show that is as logistically complicated. Also it requires you to keep your patience, because the ground is always shifting. The schedule is always changing and you have to just go with it. Jim Chory, the producer, has this office with all these white boards that list all the different units, and locations, and episodes and actor requirements, and there’s all these lines and diagrams connecting them. I joke with him that it looks like A BEAUTIFUL MIND, just keeping the schedule straight.

As a director you want to help, not stand in the way. And I get to do things here that I would never get to do on any other show.

GB: Directorial design is so important on this show. And so hard for me to get director’s to achieve. For so long I tried to figure out how to describe to directors how to shoot the show and design the scenes and the shots. I’d say, “these scenes are like graphic novels with extreme close angles and extreme low angles and extreme high angles. And these scenes are like BOURNE IDENTITY handheld and messy and cut quickly. And these scenes are like John Hughes movies from the 80’s…” And on and on. Finally I realized that there’s no way to say “how” to direct this show. It’s very intuitive... But the shows that work best are the one’s with a strong sense of directorial design. That’s what you are so good at.

GY: Thank you.

GB: So let’s talk about tonight’s episode.

GY: Well the cool thing is – the episode that I did last year (CAUTIONARY TALES) was one cohesive story. This one is five completely different storylines which hadn’t intersected up to now in the season. We, Charlie Lieberman (the Director of Photography) and I tried to give each one a distinct look. Peter’s story had a lot of gravity, constant pressure - so handheld. Hiro’s story when he was ten was bright with a lot of center-punched frames and wider lenses. Elle and Sylar’s story was extremely dark. And so on. I was always energized by the fact that I was shooting five different shows at once and that every day was something new.

GB: I’d like to talk about two sequences in particular which are among the most difficult we’ve had either technically or conceptually. The first is the scene where Claire jumps out the window past Peter, which was enormously complex in it’s execution. Could you talk about that?

GY: Well, you and I had spoken early on, and you had mentioned the idea of doing something like that all in one shot…

GB: Right. I referenced BLADE II the one directed by Guillermo del Toro. There’s a shot early on where Blade chases a guy down a hall, leaps out a window, lands several stories below, knocks a guy off a motorcycle and rides off - which is done all in one shot. But that had a lot more visual effects help than the way you did it.

GY: Really? Because I don’t remember the BLADE reference. I remember talking about CHILDREN OF MEN, which had all these complicated action scenes that were all done in one shot.

The idea, though, of the shot was staying with Peter’s point of view. Using him as the pick point of the scene. You and I have very similar sensibilities about how we do things. And I have to give you props for inspiration for that moment and for suggesting doing it the way we did it. On HEROES, as the director I am always encouraged to come up with things from a strong point of view.

There were hours of meetings about how to accomplish this and many designs and discussions all about - how do we have a real stunt person fall past the real actor and to feel the impact below and to show that moment but not to stay on it too long and to not have it look fake. We wanted to make it more tactile and less effecty. In fact, the stuntwoman fell on a cable and was descended in such a way that we didn’t even need a pad, she was just stopped inches above the pavement. On the day we shot it, we actually did that big stunt very quickly, which is a testament to how well we had prepared for it.

GB: There were a few visual effects elements that were added in post production… Some falling glass sahrds and a shadow of Claire that streak past Peter just before Claire enters frame, and we added a lens flare at a critical moment when he looks up just as the stunt woman enters frame because she was moving a bit slow and looked a bit fake – but just for a few frames. It was all just to enhance the amazing shot – not in any way to save it.

GY: Well, thanks for that.

GB: Talk about the experience as a director, when you have big ideas like this, and you have to defend them and protect them all through the process until they’re finally in the can.

GY: Well you talked to me about this. Everything you predicted would happen happened. You described the big scenes in HEROES as being like a pie, and that sometimes a little slice at a time they get taken away a meeting at a time. So that at every turn the compromise doesn’t feel like you’ve lost that much. But finally, when you look down – most of the pie is gone and you’ve just got a small slice left.

But here I have to give Jim Chory credit. He will understand what’s important and will pick battles for you and shuffle the money around to make it happen. He helped a lot in making that particular scene happen.

GB: So let’s talk about the dream sequence. Truthfully, for me, on the page, that was a very troubling sequence – because it had enormous potential for confusion. It had all the same characters in the same spaces in and out of the dream in the same wardrobe and then two Daphne’s. Back in prep, if I had had to bet – I would have bet that it would be much more likely that sequence would not work than that it would work. I fully believe the success of this sequence – which I now think is one of the most dynamic things we’ve ever done – is fully to your credit. It is so well designed and executed and especially edited, that not only is it cool and eerie – but more importantly, it’s very clear what is happening. I give you credit for all of that, in lesser hands the audience would have NO idea what was going on.

GY: The inspiration of the scene was to really try to use the language of dreams. To create a film language that dreams happen in, that people can relate to. Moving through space without the connection of “a” to “b.” In my dreams it’s always like that. i.e First I was here and then I was at my house, but it wasn’t my house, and then I turned around and my mother was there and then she changed… I wanted to play with space and suddenly be there and then suddenly be over there.

We used Kubrick’s 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY as a reference. Kubrick knew how to make things dream-like. And he also was able to make scary things happen in very bright spaces. It’s very effective and haunting and you’re not hiding anything.

Charlie Lieberman came up with a lighting plan that enhanced this. We used very wide lenses for the dream and he used very hot backlight and sidelight and came up with a way to halo that light.

GB: Well, in my book, it’s incredibly effective. That’s all the time we have. Thank you for your time Greg. And we look forward to seeing your next episode, which will be #14 – the first episode of the next volume, which will begin after Christmas.

GY: Thanks.

NOW THE PICTURES:


GREG YAITANES - HAVING A GREAT IDEA


A BIG BUDGET SHOW DESERVES PROPER EQUIPMENT - WE SPARE NO EXPENSE FOR MR. YAITANES


KRISTEN BELL - IT'S TRAUMATIC BEING AN ACTOR


KRISTEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A TAKE


GREG Y AND FIRST A.D. ROBERT SCOTT CROSSING OFF STORYBOARDS AS THEY SHOOT THEM


GREG AT THE MONITOR WHILE ZACH DOES A HANDSTAND IN THE B.G.


ZACH QUINTO PREPARES FOR HIS NEXT SCENE


THE VILLAINS


GREG DISCUSSES THE SCENE WITH THE CAST


CRISTINE ROSE – YOU CAN’T KEEP HER DOWN!


NTARE MWINE AS USUTU - HE MAY BE DECAPITATED - BUT HE STILL STALKS THE HALLS


GREG GRUNBERG - PUT ME IN COACH


ZACH AND KRISTEN – PSYCHOS TOGETHER!


GREG YAITANES AND ALLAN ARKUSH - TWO OF OUR FINEST!!!

AND FINALLY THE STORYBOARDS FOR THE ABOVE-DISCUSSED SEQUENCE WHERE CLAIRE JUMPS OUT THE WINDOW PAST PETER


Comments

shannon said…
Zach and Kristen are so freaking cute together
Zik said…
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Zik said…
WOW! That may have been the best hour of television of my life! While I was watching, I thought, "NBC so better not fire this writer!" So I came to your blog to find out who it was. Now I know the chances of that are slim to none.
Robin, Alaska said…
CONGRATULATIONS IT WAS WONDERFUL

Exhilarating and emotional and I can't believe it, but I love Sylar SO MUCH - I'm really dreading the possibility that his shot at redemption will fail.
Looking forward to Peter & Nathan next week. Does Nathan know about the third Petrelli Jr. yet?

PLEASE KEEP IT UP I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT! More thinking! More characters together! (and that goes for the pairs without electricity, too)
That was an amazing episode. It felt longer because I think it was so well thought out and in depth. The character development was outstanding.

You guys keep stepping the game up week after week! Keep it up! The fans are loving this season, no matter what the critics say!

Deas
Alex said…
awwws that Kristen and Zach pic was sooo cute!

WOW really loved this episode!
I love how all the characters interaction absolutely great!
I love Sylar since season 1 but now he's totally my fave, I really wish that his redemption path ends up well, I really don't wanna see him failing. Zachary Quinto is SO talented, to see Sylar's reaction when he got the Elle's ability... just made me feel for the character even more. And gosh, please, LOTS more of Sylar and Elle, these two together are the best!

pffft, whatever the critics say, I still think this season even if it has had some parts that I don't completely like (which happens to many show btw, so stop with the Heroes bashing fashion, lmao), Volume 3 is still awesome and it keeps getting better and better! Great work, guys!
Morgan said…
Fantastic episode!!

But I don't get these people saying they want Sylar to be redeemed! I loved Sylar because he was a crazy, psycho AWESOME villain. I miss that :( I kind of hope he fails and we get to see him become his old crazy self again.
Lauren said…
Sylar has to be my new favorite charater. I'm a sucker for redemption and I really hope he is successful. Zack is so good at playing a tortured soul. He and Kristen are amzingly talented and putting them together with their chemestry just makes MAGIC!
Anonymous said…
best episode of the season.
Anonymous said…
I agree with Morgan.

The pacing was great in this episode. First half was fantastic, as was the last ten minutes or so. It was nice to see Usutu again (the dream version of him, not his head on the ground), and the sides beginning to form.

That said, what the hell are the writers doing to Sylar. He might as well be called "Spike" now, things are getting that bad. Not only is his characterization being buried in order to make way for the New and Improved Awkward Woobie, ZQ has basically been subjected to a fanservice role. Please. S1!Sylar would have gleefully lopped both his and Elle's heads off by now. I would take the bad-ass, unapologetic, and devious Sylar over pukatronic Gabriel any day. Especially at the end of that volume, his hair and outfit were better.

Watching Sylar's scenes with Elle and them two giggling with each other made me feel like we were watching some behind-the-scenes clips of them. Yes, I'm sure Elle would forgive the man who killed her father, many others, and who has tried to kill her before within the span of an hour. *rolls eyes*

I never thought I would actually say this, being a Sylar fangirl and all, but I wish he had been killed off before all this mess happened to him. At least the rest of the show is interesting enough to keep me on board, but Sylar has become such a horrible joke that it's not even funny anymore.
Amy said…
That was amazing!

And Angela and Arthur are the best couple on TV.
Joel said…
Really? You guys like that they've completely changed the Sylar character? The huuunnnnngger thing was bad enough, but now he doesn't even have to slice open the head? He was terrifyingly delightful in Season 1, useless in Season 2, and seemingly a completely different character with a different power in Season 3 (he's gone from a clockmaker to an empathizer). Heroes still does enough to keep me interested fom week to week, but I just wish they would treat the characters, mythology, and fans with a little more respect.
Dr. Chaos said…
The stuff with Sylar continues to be by far the most interesting part of season three.

They're turning him into a multi-dimensional character instead of sticking with "witty black clad serial killer #1104" and he's going to be a much better character for it, especially if he falls from grace and ends up down a dark path once again.

Zachary Quinto is a great actor but there has always been a certain question of longevity when it came to the character, if he was going to stick around, he was going to need more depth and they've certainly given him that.

The stuff with Elle & Sylar was fantastically shot and addictive to watching.

As I've said, alot of relationships can ring false at times on Heroes but putting Zach and Kirsten together was one of the smartest and natural transitions the show has ever made.

Elle & Sylar were practically made for each other.
Ams said…
Absolutely, without question, the best episode since season one. This is Heroes.

As far as Sylar goes, I, too, am a huge fan of S1's nefarious, warped, evil boy, and I miss him. However, I agree with the person who brought up the question of that character's longevity. How long before we all get bored of watching him lop off peoples' skulls? I can guarantee you that we'd be complaining just as much about how his character stayed so one-dimensional and wasn't changed by all the things going on around himmi. And, as opposed as I am to all things retcon, I will grudgingly admit that he and Elle are adorable. In a strange, semi-OOC kind of way, but still.

Also, have the people who did the special effects for the Sylar/Elle scenes seen the Watchmen trailer? Just curious. XD
Anonymous said…
It's only natural that Elle should forget everything about her father and how he died at the sight of Sylar's naked chest.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

You guys are unbelievable. Are you actively trying to make people puke while watching your show? Is it a new market stragedy?

I think Zach and Kristen are cute, too, but there's a limit to how much BS like this I can take.

Also: are you writing Mohinder off? I hope you are. Not because I don't like him, but because he doesn't deserve all of the bad writing and complete dismissal of his back story. Chrandra never existed, did he.

Why do I even still care? Have fun on your own, show runners. It's evidently all you want: masturbating over your favorite actors.
Dr. Chaos said…
Lets be honest here, Elle attacked Sylar in a vicious manner that would have killed a normal man several times over. She forgot nothing and she hurt him for everything.

Like Sylar said, she is in alot of ways what her father twisted her into become. Like himself, he believes she was a fundamentally good person that was led astray. Her relationship with her father was strained at best, she had no tears to shed for him when he died, only anger. It says alot about their life together as a family as the daughter desperate for approval and the father that responded by torturing his daughter to death to see how much she could take before passing out.

If Elle and Sylar can't forgive themselves for the individual sins of their own past, then they have no future, only wallowing in their own despair.

Gabriel Gray has murdered people, fueled by a monstrous addiction that can drive even the most good intentioned soul to horrible actions (see what Peter did to Nathan and Angela) and an inferiority complex.

But when Elle looks at herself, you know what? Unlike Sylar, she doesn't have much of an excuse to account for the murder of people like Kaitlin's brother whose only crime was annoying Elle.

Elle hated herself as much as she did Sylar and it's becuase they had more in common than she was willing to accept.

Like she said, they were both monsters. They killed people and they lost track of who they were.

Two psychopaths that could really only understand each other and relate in a way no one else could with them. Kindred spirits.
Anonymous said…
^ This.
Matthew said…
wow i just loved that dream sequence. great direction and editing.
i loved that episode of house too that Greg Yaitanes won the emmy for. Houses Head

does this mean no more chatsworth/africa scenes? i was so destined to go find find you guys filming!!
Anonymous said…
I get what you're saying, Dr. Chaos, but the whole thing still reeks of "OMG aren't KBell and ZQ are so hot and cute together?" Zapping off Sylar's shirt also seemed like a ploy to get the fangirls thinking about other things rather than what was actually taking place.

As rocky as Elle's relationship was with her father, she still wanted to please him and make him proud of her. In her own little warped way, she loved him, and she craved love/respect from him. So I still don't see how Sylar freeing her from her chains and telling her to "forgive herself" leads to her having a giggle session with him and teaching him how to use his powers, considering that he was the one to end one of the only consistent (if not normal) relationships she's ever had. Plus, the old Sylar would have balked at the idea of sharing his abilities with another person AND working under the authority of someone, bio-dad or not.

I'm not saying that I wanted Sylar to always run around slicing heads off for abilities, but what the writers are doing to him is sloppy, cheap, and disrespectful to the audience. It's like they know that at least half of the viewers are shallow enough to eat up a shoddily-written redemption arc as long as Sylar bares as much chest as Peter did in S2.

This volume shouldn't have been named "Villains", it should have been named "The Petrellis". If the writers were planning on focusing 80% of the show on them, they should at least be up front about it.
Anonymous said…
I agree about the basis for a Sylar/Elle relationship. There are many things to support it. The problem isn't the relationship itself.

The problem is that in order to make it work, they retconned both their personalities. The fact that it makes sense doesn't excuse that they didn't DEVELOP it, but rather took the easy way out and started claiming that it had always been there, and they had always been those people -- and not the people we came to learn (and love) in the past seasons.

There is nothing wrong with Sylar/Elle, in theory. Now they actually made it happen? Bad writing, insulting to people who actually do remember what their personalities and backstories ARE.
joseph said…
Zach half naked was HOT (and i'm a fanBOY, ahem!) But this ep was stoopid! It's SO convenient that Matt *now* hears thoughts sometimes. Hiro had a hard time RElearning his power but Ando just squeezed his eyes shut and they zipped out of the desert? i could go on and on. there are so many inconsistencies! have the writers *seen* earlier eps? there were definitely some interesting thoughts in this ep but, overall, the story sucks! i think i'll stop watching and see what people think at the end of the season. then, maybe, i'll netflix the dvd. hope you can pull it together.
erin said…
*gasp* What's THIS no Adrian pics OR of Jack? Or, more importantly, no Adrian/Jack. Methinks you are holding out on us. ;)

I absolutely LOVE the one of Kristen/Zachary. And the one of 'Usutsu' (sorry I don't know the dude's name IRL...I need to run to IMDB I guess) and Grunny is awesome--because what's a post without Grunny, eh?

<3

Keep up the amazing work, luv!! :D PLEASE don't let the mofos in some of the comments discourage you/the entire project--this is an amazing show and a phenomenal season blowing S2 out of the water, even the better aspects of S2! As always, much love!!

PS--Please tell Adrian that buckshotwon needs to be updated whenever he gets a chance to do so. The fangirls await... (We understand he is *uber* busy, but we still want more. More Adrian, more Nathan. As always. No hurry, just encouragement! We hope to see more, whenever he is able to upload it!)

And, to Jack, we LOVE your updates on the HRG files especially your words concerning Obama. You rock, man!! <3
Allison said…
Best episode so far. Really, I agree the pace was perfect and lots of Character development and history.

I was touched by Elle and Sylar - the way it lead to where it went.

The dream sequence was wonderful and the way Angela compelled to Arthur's sense of nostalgia for her - that like us all they too we're young and in love. I hope one day you can show us that on the show. It really is a tragic love story. (man how I was hating him last week) I think deep down Arthur isn't just angry that she tried to kill him, but that she choice Nathan over HIM.
Anonymous said…
Thank you so much for all of your amazing behind-the-scenes pics. I hate to say it, but this is the only Heroes-related thing I look forward to on Mondays.

Since this is our only real outlet to leave feedback that those associated with the show might actually read, I just want to echo the others that are displeased not only with the way Sylar/Elle was handled in this episode (and the season), but the way the characters were handled at all.

Season 1 Sylar was amazing. Maybe one of the greatest characters, certainly one of the greatest villains, of all time. And we loved him BECAUSE he was a ruthless, guiltless psychopath. And I'm a huge Sylar fan, I fell in love with the show because of Sylar, and I've kept watching because of him. But, honestly, I think the worst thing Heroes ever decided to do was NOT kill Sylar in Kirby Plaza. He had next to no story line in season 2, and what's been done to him in season 3 is just ... ridiculous! My mom and I CRINGE as we watch these episodes. Sylar is going to be redeemed by a woman's love and a mother's touch? (And since when was it Sylar's doting mother who caused all the psychological damage that led to his killing - of course, in that vein, since when was it this ~hunger~ and not simply his own need for power? AND SINCE WHEN WAS HE AN EMPATH?) I think, under a better team of writers, maybe Sylar could've been redeemed believably. But this feels like a last-ditch attempt at keeping a fan favorite on the show long after his due. Everything we ever loved about this character has fundamentally been ripped out from under him. Now, the character that is on screen today isn't generally a dislikable character, he may even be interesting and kinda cute, but he isn't Sylar. Fundamentally, he isn't Sylar. No amount of flashback episodes and exposition and Quinto without his shirt off is going to make us forget that this character has been completely stripped of everything we fell in love with in season 1. And, yes, I understand that characters need to change and evolve, but they don't need to suddenly have everything about their backstory turned on its head simply to appease an increasingly grasping writing staff.

And don't get me started on how Elle can now suddenly forgive Sylar for killing her father and revert back to being cutesy BFFs in the space of an hour. I get that Zach and Kristen are friends, I get that someone on the Heroes staff thinks that all fans need is a shirtless boy and some cute flirty blonde to be happy with their show, but honestly? Most of us don't feel that way. I just sort of felt it was disrespectful to both of their characters to tack that relationship on. When she started to show Sylar the "tricks" of her power, I felt like I was watching a teen soap! Disappointing.
Anonymous said…
When is Peter Petrelli going to get his superpowers back ?
Alex said…
I don't really understand why people feel like it's out of nowhere that Sylar is suddenly feeling remorseful and guilty over his crimes... we were already introduced briefly to this other side of Sylar back on S1... On the episode where Gabriel goes to see her mom, the dialog with Elle on "Villains" was practically exactly the same that he had with his mom when he says something like "Maybe I don't need to be special, maybe I can just be Gabriel". It's OK, if you don't like the direction of a character (God knows that I completely HATE what they're doing with poor Mohinder) but not for that you have to insult the writter's work as if it's nothing but crap, and second, and most importantly to me, cuz I feel personally offended... Don't treat the fans who find Sylar's story compelling right now (specially girls, it seems) as brainless fans cuz they only find it compelling cuz of shirtless Zach... It was certainly hot, but to be honnest the scenes between them were so powerful that I didn't even pay attention to it... I took more attention and I was more moved by details like the tears of joy in Sylar's eyes when he discovers that he has been able to get Elle's power without having to kill her, for example.

I loved him as a villain on Season 1 too, but what made me more interested on the character was actually that other side of him that we met so briefly... watching S2 I feared that they will turn him into a simple one-dimensional character... I'm happy that I was wrong.
Anonymous said…
Damn, so disappointed. Elle’s been given the revenge that Maya should have had.

I know you want to forget that vol2 ever happened but I’m sorry:

Woman that loved him deeply enough to cast off her own twin, saw him as literally a gift from god and just generally adored him. Then was horrifically betrayed when her powerless (e.g = not Hunger driven) lover killed said twin, lied to her and then shot her >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on-off psycho who made him pie but pushed him over the edge because she didn’t want to become a waitress. Her horrid father top popped (but omg it‘s wasn‘t his fault!!!), screamed “MURDERER,” tortured him, then an hour later “OMG this power is cool, lets play like the sudden woobies we are *giggles*

If anyone deserves empathy from that man it’s Maya. But again TPTB have a hard on for KB and ZQ together and Dania is secondary. Such a waste.
Anonymous said…
Where are Noah "HRG" Bennet in this episode ??? :(
I'm so tired...
ABoyNamedArt said…
Good episode this week, all things considered; certainly a strong rebound after "Villains." One question that popped into my mind, though: with Isaac dead, who's the creative team behind 9th Wonders?
Ksenia said…
Mr. Beeman, THE SHOW rocks!
I wasn't sure at the beginning but now I take all my doubts back! This ep was AWESOME! Keep up the inspiration! Sylar/Elle forever! Arthur is the BEST VILLAIN EVER.

RUSSIA LOVES HEROES!!!
Anna said…
This episode and the last episode have been my favorite so far this season.

I absolutely love that Sylar is more multi-dimensional now and Zachary Quinto is doing a wonderful job as Sylar. His chemistry with Kristen is amazing and they have made Sylar and Elle my two favorite characters on the show.

Now that being said, are there any shirtless pics of Zach from behind the scenes like there were of Milo from S2?
Mariana said…
the sylar/elle storyline is great!!

Kristen and Zach have a lot of chemistry!
Jemiah said…
Insane. Completely insane. I have no idea how you all do it. Love this show so much. I was thinking, during the dream sequence, not so much Stanley Kubrick's work on 2001 (or THE SHINING, another good dream-logic example) but of the god of dream-logic cinema himself, David Lynch. It was beautifully done; my props to Mr. Yaitanes. Can't wait to see his episode 14. This show is like film school every single week...
nils said…
It's "Spider-Man"! How could such a huge mistake have made it into the episode?! There's a dash in the middle. Not Spiderman, Spider-Man!
levitatethis said…
I’ll start with what I liked:
I know that Mohinder gets a lot of flack but I really like the character and it was great to see a reminder of Season 1 Mohinder back. I’ve always liked the idea of a non-powered individual (even though I have an idea of why he did what he did this season) being so instrumental and involved in this powered-world. I like the different levels he works on – very much driven by his work but also conflicted about what comes with it. He’s a scientist who is very emotionally involved and he gets in over his head but tries to do the right thing. I love that he never gives up even when he gets knocked down.

Matt going into Angela’s head was pretty cool and I think the way it was filmed made good use of the medium. Although the bit with Daphne admitting she loves Matt seems way too quick.

I liked seeing the two sides forming behind Arthur and Angela and it’s a showdown I’m actually pretty interested in.

Please do more with Knox! He has the potential to be such an interesting character but right now it feels like he’s just there.

As for what I disliked…well, let’s be honest, I hated: Sylar/Elle. Anyone who tells you this storyline is working cannot be fans of the characters from season 1 and season 2. They’re fans of Quinto and Bell and that’s entirely different – I like the actors, but this storyline is so detrimental to the characters as presented to us in season 1 and 2. The thing is, it could have been done really well. Send two highly questionable people (a sociopath and a serial killer) to bring down havoc together as they take what they want. Kind of Natural Born Killers. Even if they hooked up it could be done non-romantically (which would work). The big thing is keeping them in character.

But that’s not what we’re getting. We’re getting the shmoopy, “love can conquer all”, the world did this to us show and I can’t stand it. How can there be redemption when he doesn't have to take responsibility for what he's done?

And Sylar can now take on an ability through the Power of Love and Empathy? So much for the fascinating intuitive aptitude. Are the writers going through a check list of what made Sylar intriguing in season 1 and 2 and systematically crossing them off? This Sylar is not the one who was so complex in his motivations and actions. This one is a defanged puppy.

The one thing I liked about their confrontation was seeing Elle go all sparkplug on him but the dialogue that followed? Hell no. Terrible, cliché, totally out of character.

What really gets me though is that this confrontation is what should and could have taken place between Mohinder and Sylar. It’s been set up for two seasons and the beginning of this one:

Mohinder injects himself and the powers are incontrollable destructive. He’s captured and held captive by either Pinehurst of The Company and Sylar is sent in to deal with him. A powered fight ensues that’s huge with the same father issues, betrayal, the fact that Mohinder wants to stop Sylar etc. Sylar, with a much better grasp of his own abilities manages to take Mohinder down. He taunts and teases him (blah blah blah moral compass but it turns out you’re just like me blah blah blah) and Mohinder feels legitimate remorse for the people he has hurt. He feels defeated and expects death but Sylar doesn’t kill him, he saves him.

This would be in character from season 1 given that Sylar has spared him his life before (when Peter showed up at Mohinder’s apartment at the end of “Parasite” Mohinder was worse for wear but still alive…why?) and it would be Mohinder in a very conflicted position (saved by the man who has killed his father and so many others, someone who seems to regard him a different light…this harkens back to “Powerless” when Sylar tells Mohinder, “Your father who betrayed me. Don’t make that same mistake Mohinder.”). You could actually explore the complexities of how they relate to one another -- the confusion, uncertainty, bond that ties them together.

Look at that. Similar confrontation scene but this one moves both characters in a darker direction and yet paralleled. You don’t have to retcon the characters until they’re unrecognizable and you don’t have to alter the past timelines as we know them from season 1 and 2. The Mohinder/Sylar storyline is built in already.

But instead Mohinder is separated from most of the cast at this point while Sylar and Elle are suddenly normal and not responsible for anything they’ve ever done. This Sylar is Spike from the last season of Buffy and it’s utter crap.

As far as I’m concerned I’m ignoring the existence of the Sylar/Elle storyline…permanently or until the writers fix it. But pushing aside as story (Mohinder/Sylar) that has been built up by your own writers for two seasons so that you can play it out with another pairing (and go for some romance factor) is insulting.
levitatethis said…
As a quick add on to my last comment...

If you wanted to have Sylar take on powers without killing couldn't you have had him at some point kill someone with X-Ray vision or something? Then he would be able to see into the brain, still use his intuitive aptitude to understand it for himself, and he wouldn't need to kill...and we wouldn't be subjected to the Power of Love and Power of Empathy OOC stuff.
Ludmi said…
Ok yeah I don't like the sylar/elle "love story" or even "OMG I want to be good and I love you". TWO WORDS = BS

ZQ is a great actor and yeah I do believe that Sylar/Gabriel maybe can have a little of remorse, like the time he wents to his mom house on season 1. But that he feels really guilty about some of the killings is totally BS.
And is more BS from Elle coz she kills the brother of Caitlin just coz he was on her way and he not even attack her (and she enjoy that), the only explain that I can found is that the Haitian erase her memory and sylars too.

And the storyline Sylar/elle/HRG, omg, did you tptb got the memory erased by the Haitian? The time is totally wrong, it dosen't take a lot just to watch season 1 and don't do the horrible mistakes that TPTB did.
It's totally disrespectful for the people who watch the show sence season 1. Don't you see what is happening? The ratings are lower and lower by episode and I know little about television if Heroes continue like this is going to live just one season more, coz low ratings and too much money on production is not a great match (not for the network) and that is a pity.

And about Maya: I do like her, I only allmost watch season 2 coz of her and Sylar history. Dania needs to come back, Maya didn't even have a confrontation with Sylar (or what she got the memory erase from the Haitian too?). I love her character and she have soo much potencial but so far you waste it, and is sad.

If yout still listen to the fans, please listen to me, listen to the other fans. Or you are just going to still listening only the KB fans (or the ones who says the kb and ZQ are too cute and blablabla), the "halo" fans? Coz listen to them is not working very much.
Anonymous said…
Greg Beeman, thank you for letting people bitch in your blog. Not only that, but continuing to write it knowing that you're going to have to put up with attacks on your character and requests that you end the show every week from people who have no idea what they're talking about.

The show's going great. No worries. ^^
Dreyesbo said…
This is my favorite episode of the year, and now I know why. Yaitanes is great, I'm SO looking forward to watch the Volume 4 premiere directed by him.
Anonymous said…
I have a question!

Hiro and Ando went to the bookstore,then Ando took the comic book to Hiro.

My question is...
Who has drawn that comic?
Anonymous said…
I agree with Ludmi

Bring Maya back, give the character some respect and continue her real story! It should never have been replaced by this huge Retcon of Elle/Sylar.

(Sylar's empathy? Maybe better directed to someone that seemed to love him a zealous amount but he treated appallingly, just a thought…)
TommyGUNN said…
Awesome show this week....a couple of questions....was Greg Y's emmy won for Heroes? I didnt think you guys had won one yet....


Greg Y talked about the producer Jim Chory and his room of keeping a show straight....what does that mean? there seems to be a lot going on...what does that guy do?
Lynda said…
Ugh, count me in with those who hated the Sylar/Elle storyline - where is my crazy but hot serial killer? Where is my favorite sparky little sociopath? To change the characters so drastically, and change the storyline to fit that, is jarring to say the least.

And why, when it should have been a featured part of the episode, did it take until after the half-hour mark to see Nathan at Pinehearst? And then his meeting with his "dead", power-stealing father lasted all of one scene???!!

In general I've been OK with season 3, but I'm starting to lose my love and Kring calling me a dips**t because I'm still watching a real TV from my comfy chair has really pushed me to the edge. Its time to focus on characterization rather than writing characters solely to fit the plot.
concerned citizen said…
@ 12:54 anon

As one of those who was "bitching" here, I want to say, for the record:
Of all Heroes producers and directors, it's probably Greg Beeman who I will remember most fondly. In interviews, episode commentaries, he has always come across as a genuinely nice guy with a fantastic sense of humour, and as someone who loves his job.

When we make complaints about Heroes' current direction here, it's not because we blame Greg Beeman specifically. It's just that we want our voices heard, and this seems the best place.

When "you" is used, it's meant as a general plural... it means whoever forces are responsible for the problems of Heroes. From an outside perspective, it's impossible to tell for sure, but I am sure Mr. Beeman or anybody else within will know who is at fault for the specific issues brought up in these comments.

And Heroes IS in trouble. There's no sense denying this. The ratings are down, Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander were let go, and the story and characters have lost all sense of direction or purpose.

Well, it looks like the main problem right now is Tim Kring himself, who has admitted to be uncomfortable with the serialized TV format, doesn't understand why the fans would grow attached to the characters, and doesn't enjoy writing these characters because he isn't interested in anything other than origin stories... oh, and he called his fans "dipshits".
(Just google it.)

It must be frustrating for Mr. Beeman (and all others) to be associated with such a man, and I am sorry that there are negative comments on this blog. But they aren't directed at his person, they are directed at the show that he is working on. It's not a private blog, after all, but one meant for the TV show.
Anonymous said…
Kring:

OMG, I can’t believe he said that! WTH! He’s insane.

No man, the problem is not people watching the show over the net or recording it and, according to him, not getting the “serialised” nature of it. The problem is his shitty story telling, a large cast within whom only a key group gets development/screentime and lack of direction for the show.

Does he want to lose more viewers?
Mercedes said…
Hello greg!
im from argentina!
i dont speak english.. :S
i love heroes! i love isaac mendez and nathan petrelli ♥
kisses!

mercedes of argentina
mer.la22@hotmail.com
Charlie said…
This episode was beautifully shot. Kudos to Yaitanes and the cinematographer. And as usual thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to share these pictures and insights with us, Greg.

But after Kring's latest comments I feel the need to express some love for the cast and crew who are still working their butts of, because I feel very sorry that their own showrunner doesn't show them any respect.

You have a wonderful cast and people rightfully love them. Many of your actors have amazing chemistry like Milo and Adrian, Jack and Hayden or Masi and James. You created interesting and lovable characters that people instantly connected with. Your show is visually outstanding. The sets, locations and cinematography are beautiful. If Kring can't appreciate that, the fans most certainly do. It's a shame that the actors and countless crew members who are working so hard to keep this show going, have to suffer from an overall lack of vision, inconsistent story telling, weak character development and their showrunner’s mindless comments.

I think many fans are so disappointed because the writers don't show any respect for their own creations and mess with time lines, character and plot continuity. The characters are the heart of the show and the reason people care. It's disheartening to hear that Kring views them and the actors who portray them as a burden and that reflects in their characterization. Other showrunners would kill for having a broad fanbase that is so emotionally attached to the characters and actors and is as invested in the narrative mythology. It's not only casual viewers that Kring is losing currently but with this kind of attitude he is alienating many fans who watched the show since season 1.
Bryan said…
To echo a person above, thank you Greg Beeman for allowing us to vent on your blog. It gives me, and perhaps others, the tiniest bit of hope that people like you who work on the show will hear us and try to make the show that we love better than it has shown itself to be, and as good as we know it can be.

That being said, may Bryan Fuller bring on Crisis on Infinite Heroes Suck that will retcon season 2 through 3.
leana from france said…
yes, Thank you Greg to let us speak our minds here, to start with.
I liked the episode but, as though the Elle/Gabriel was touching, I just couldn't buy it.
Not from where those two characters come from.
It was absolutly well-acted (Zach was perfect and Bell was at her prettiest..) but i was in a 'Charmed/ Buffy/BS' stuff...no way you'd get me believe THIS guy (gorgeous ok ) was Sylar. No way. I can't buy it. I KNOW Sylar. Watched him from the start. He will never giggle while awkwardly having fun trying his new power with a lolita, like he's in a Carnival. No way mister, can't be, sorry...Or he ends up the game by killing the giggling thing while laughing.
THAT would be Sylar.
Redemption is a soooo typically soft religious version of humanity!..I absolutly agree that you can't keep him in the series as a 2 dimensional character 'me see, me kill'. But as someone else said, maybe there was a more subtle, adult, logical, clever way to bring him into a 3 dimensional character. Working for the Company was a nice 1st step I think...Sylar doesn't NEED a whole/sudden Redemption Amen please! He just needs a grey space where he can socialise a bit more, not be by himself all the time and show his cleverness, through stillselfishness ! NOT a stupid love song with roses! jeeeezzz!
bouhouhou, im so sad, i just lost my favourite character (after Snape ;)
Still the episode was fine...the rest I mean...
Anonymous said…
Oh my god! A man I've never met before in my life called me a dipshit?! Excuse me while I go cry forever.

Forgive me, but - I know this is a novel concept, stick with me - I watch this show for entertainment. Sure, I get emotionally invested in some characters, but I'm not going to stop watching if they die, and I'm sure as hell not going to come over here every week and leave huge comments about omg how ~angry~ I am at Tim Kring for being a big mean retconning racist. This is television. Television. I have way more important things to devote my time, energy, and passion to.

I enjoy the show immensely, and Heroes fans used to be a really rad group of people, but the fact that so many are getting so obsessed that they lash out to the extent that they do makes me hesitant to associate myself with the fandom.
Anonymous said…
I have way more important things to devote my time, energy, and passion to.

Such as whining about how people you've never met disagree with you about a TV show on the internet?
Anonymous said…
Such as whining about how people you've never met disagree with you about a TV show on the internet?

Haha. Cute.
Claudia said…
i like all the episodes so far..but this one....Hmmm i want to like the sylar or gabriel story line but until now...something is not working on me...i think that is i like crazy sylar and not sweet gabriel maybe...well..but apart from that i like everything on the show.
Anonymous said…
i totally agree with leana from france regarding the whole sylar redemption thing!

after reading some of the comments,i also do agree that sylar would be a rahter one dimensional character if he were to stay in what leana so eloquently put as the "me see, me kill" mode.

it would add dimension to his character if he were to think twice about slicing off every head he sees.

that said i think his redemption should have been handled in a much more gradual manner. to me, his change of heart was too sudden, it felt to me like the minute sylar saw his mom, he went: "oh mommy! i promise to be good frmo now on"

a psychopath turning over a new leaf just because of his mommy dearest? it isn't very believable, no matter how much he craved his mother's attention before.

and as for the sylar/elle romance, it just shouldn't have happened in this way, if at all. i wonder if fans who commented that the sylar/elle thing is awesome have really come to know these characters from day one.

theoratically, sylar/elle may work, seeing how one is a sociopath and the other a psycho serial killer, they may understand each other in some demented twisted way, and their relationship should have been explored much more gradually, but certainly not in that teenage giggly manner.

all that said, i sill LOVE the show, i remain a fan. this episode, more than any other in season 3 so far, is the closest to the true 'heroes spirit' that we all fell in love with in season 1.
Anonymous said…
but Elle's giggle like a teenager it's the only things IC she does in this ep! She enjoy her power, and now can play with it with someone... As for Sylar redemption, you should read this:
http://community.livejournal.com/heroes_sylar/635638.html
or, maybe, re-watch the "oh so perfect season 1", especially "the hard part"...
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Anonymous said…
please, don't kill Elle!
Ryan said…
I think that new season is stupid. My connection to the show is the trust and belief in certain characters abilities. Characters like Peter and Hiro really need their true original abilities. I think all of this wishy washy junk needs to stop. Bring back the old heroes that I bought into!
cwollis said…
Mr. Beeman.

Ran across this song called "The Heroes Return" by a band called "Malibu Knights". It is very powerful and would definitely add to the dramatic effect of most episodes.

www.malibuknights.com

regards.
Razib said…
hi greg,

i am from bangladesh. i have been watching heroes since pilot episode and try not to miss any episode. season one was great, though the season finale was a bit disappointing.

i waited eagerly for season two but it did not live up to the expectations, many characters of season two seemed unnecessary, like maya and her brother. among the two i liked maya's brother and you guys managed to kill him. moreover maya servived which was very disappointing. later it became evident that maya's superpower was not black death, it was her cleavage that helped her survive despite being an
annoying & hated character.

i liked the characters of eden, candice and D.L. D.L's character was much better than niki's but
he ended up dead. while niki died, ali larter survived as a new character. again comes the skin show power.

interestingly a common factor between woman characters written off is that they were all brunette, only maya managed to defy this. I wonder why that is! now except for angela all other women are blond. why do you guys
hate brunettes so much?

please write peter off, milo can't act, to give such a powerful character to such a limited actor is a total waste.

from the begining third season looked better than second season, there is more action, more surprises, more effects. but trying to spice things up please don't blow it up. it looks like to writers are trying to increase
viewers by cramming in all the things that was hit on season one, but if the characters lose depth, no amount of action or effects can save the show.

last of all thanks for your blog. it is really great.
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