BEEMAN’S BLOG
SEASON 3 EPISODE 23
“1961”
WARNING: IT’LL BE ON THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND SIXTY-ONE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN FORGIVE YOURSELF FOR READING SPOILERS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS BLOG THAT YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY UNPREPARED FOR!
Aron Coleite wrote tonight’s episode.
It was directed by Adam Kane.
As you may remember, Adam Kane was the director of photography on the HEROES pilot. This is the fourth episode he’s directed for us. He left in the middle of season two to be the director-producer on PUSHING DASIES and has since done several other projects. We missed him and are glad he’s back.
I want to focus today on two things… First, I want to focus on the enormous job accomplished by the art department on this episode, under the direction of Ruth Ammon. And, secondly, the good fortune we had in obtaining our young cast for this episode.
But before I can illuminate those two points, I must, for a moment, discuss the script. Aron Coleite’s, script was in some ways, very simple. It is actually a very contained story delving into the happenings in one location in two separate time periods. It is a quite compelling story and, I’m quite certain, long time fans will be quite compelled to learn about Angela’s history and of the formation of the Company.
Of course, from another point of view, it is one of the most complex projects we’ve done. The whole story takes place, almost completely in the internment camp called Coyote Sands. That internment camp is seen in the past of 1961, when it is brand new. It is also seen in the present day, when it is old and dilapidated. It also presented us with the very challenging task of giving over about a third of our episode to an all new teenage cast, which is tough enough, but to make it harder they would be playing characters that are already very well established.
Luckily we had an early heads up about this project. The writer’s room warned us it was coming – and Dennis Hammer sent out an alerting email in December, when we were still shooting episode #19. The locations department and the art department were instructed to at least think about the project and propose ideas, and our casting directors were instructed to begin thinking about who could play Young Angela, Angela’s sister, Linderman, Charles Deveaux, etc.
The script originally set the camp in White Sands New Mexico. Of course that was unfeasible on our scale, and Aron understood that. But we took that as an instruction to find a beautiful remote location with a unique look. Initially, we had the location department scout desert locations – but anything that looked good enough was an overnight stay away, and that was also untenable.
We also knew that once we had our spot, we’d have to go and actually construct the majority of the buildings. Any building that our cast interacted with or passed in front of we built. Any building that was purely in the background, would be created by our CGI team at Stargate,
Even though Coyote Sands plays a much larger part of episode 23 than it did in episode 22, we had to scout and select the location right at the very beginning of the prep of episode 22 (with director Jeannot Swzarc.) Adam Kane was in New York directing an episode of KINGS. We called him and briefed him on the script and told him, that, unfortunately, we would be selecting and moving forward on his key location before he got back from New York. He understood. I tried to have his back, as it were. The most important element for a large exterior project like this is the light. For both beauty and speed of shooting I tried to select a spot that faced southward, where the sun would backlight the set the majority of the day. We picked a location called Polsa Rosa, which is in the Antelope Valley about 50 miles North of Los Angeles. This is a large property, which is well kept up and is used frequently for filming. We’ve shot there for Mexico before. The location is not as remote as it seems on film. But the spot we selected was about three miles off the main highway, and a couple of, miles down a single-lane dirt road.
We brought photographs of the spot back to the team, and everyone agreed it was beautiful and that it would be our “Coyote Sands” camp.
Ruth studied Manzanar, and other Japanese Internment camps, from the World War II era. Fortunately, military architecture, by its nature, tends to be simple and designed to be easily replicated. She took a topographical map and laid out her design for the camp. She also used blueprints and foam models to lay out the design of the individual cabins.
Her original plan was to build about 8 full exterior cabins on location, and a larger building to be “Building 26” (where young Chandra Suresh runs experiments on the specials.) Because there were scenes where the cast traveled from interior to exterior one of the cabins was to have a partially finished interior.
The cabins also had to be seen in the past, newly constructed, and in the present dilapidated. We knew we’d have to build a turnaround time for this within the body of the episode. (i.e. we would have to shoot the cabins dilapidated first, then leave back to stages for a few days while the art department turned the cabins back around. Ruth’s original plan was also to build two full interior cabins. One old and dilapidated, and one new.
But of course, each piece of construction also carries a price - as it would for you if you were, say, remodeling your kitchen. Every wall, floor, surface and stairway has to be designed, cut, hammered together, assembled, surfaced and then decorated. On stage these costs are high enough – but on a remote location the price really soars. Each section of the cabin’s was going to have to be pre-cut and pre-fabricated by our carpenters in Hollywood, and then transported to the remote location an hour away. On location, Ruth laid out the plot of the camp with string. Postholes were dug and support beams were dropped into the ground. Once the pre-fabbed lumber was delivered there it had to be, re-assembled. Then it would have to be painted and surfaced on location and, despite our lead-time– from the time Ruth got the financial go-ahead – to the time we were shooting was just a matter of about two weeks.
But then budget realities kicked in… HEROES and all NBC shows are under super-tight financial constraints right now. This much construction was off the charts financially. So meetings and meetings and meetings took place with re-designs and re-designs and re-designs…. Ultimately, the size of the cabins became scaled back by 30%...eight cabins became 5. Building 26 became a same-sized cabin, and it even came to pass that Adam Kane had to be very specific about what angles he would shoot on location. We made it so that – if we weren’t going to see the back or side of a cabin we didn’t build it. On stage - Two cabins on stage became one, which had to be re-dressed both ways. (Similar restrictions and cuts were made in action and visual effects by the way – originally there was much more use of powers.) But anyway – we finally had an acceptable construction budget.
Then came the rain, the snow and the mud:
Of course Los Angeles is famous for it’s good weather – but the poor construction crew, which was already working seven days a week to get this project up fell under a deluge of rain – the likes of which we hadn’t seen in Los Angeles in years. They were working ten-hour days in sleeting rain, and the ground under their feet became a swamp of mud. The rain went on for days and days, and then the weather shifted in the high desert, and the rain became snow!
After it was all over, I overheard one of our lead carpenters saying to one of his men, “After season three, Hell holds no fear for the HEROES construction crew!”
I also need to mention the work done by Alexa Nikolas who plays Young Angela and Laura Marano, who plays her sister, Alice.
As I mentioned before, the idea of double casting a large portion of our cast, while fun on the page, struck me as potentially very dangerous. When casting the pilot, there were weeks and weeks available to toss ideas around, audition and re-audition actors and have “chemistry reads.” Here, even though our casting department had a lot of lead-time to think about it - we only had a week or two of actual auditions. (Remember we were still making episode 20 and 21 and 22 during this time frame – which were not small episodes.)
Anyway, our casting directors, Natalie Hart, Jason La Padura and Keri Owens did a great job finding kids for us. To my surprise, there were actually multiple choices available for most roles.
But I think we especially lucked out with Alexa Nikolas
I was somewhat familiar with her work because my kids used to watch the show she was on ZOEY 101. She is just a bright, intelligent and energetic young woman. Her audition was complex and also emotionally deep. There are a number of traps available to the unwary actor in this role. Angela, at that age, was not as firm or resolved as she is today (in fact that journey is one that Alexa had to make throughout the episode.) Angela is, at the very least – complex. Many actors played her either, too tough, or too emotional or they just read the words without a real sense of character. Anyway, Alexa navigated these treacherous waters quite well.
Cristine Rose wasn’t involved in the casting. But she was quite interested in supporting Alexa. There were two rehearsals, which Cristine came to and observed. Alexa and Adam and Joe and Cristine and I all had a nice conversation before and after these rehearsals about the character and about the scenes. I know Cristine and Alexa spent some time together and Cristine was on set observing quite a bit. There may have been a little nudge here or a little nudge there from some of us – but truthfully Alexa seemed to have the role firmly grasped and she made the work look easy. My experience with her is similar to my experience with many actors I’ve worked with who began acting at very early ages… Even very complex and emotional work seems to come to them very naturally and easily and seemingly with little effort. I’m always amazed by this (rare) phenomenon. Hayden Panettiere is certainly like this, and so was Allison Mack, who I worked with as Chloe on SMALLVILLE.
Okay enough about all that – why are you really here? We all know… THE PICTURES:
ADAM KANE (WITH D.P. CHARLIE LIEBERMAN) LINES UP A SHOT
ADAM KANE LINES UP ANOTHER SHOT
RUTH AMMON AND A MODEL OF THE SET
THE PRODUCTION MEETING (ADAM KANE, EXEC PRODUCER DENNIS HAMMER AND MYSELF)ALL WONDER "HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING????
.JPG)
TWO SISTERS
TAKING PHOTOS IN THE HIGH DESERT
ANOTHER DAY ON SET
MILO AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
ME AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
ME AND MILO AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
HAYDEN AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
EVERYBODY (BUT ME) CHILLIN' AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
HAYDEN AND ADRIAN TOSS A PIGSKIN BETWEEN TAKES
MILO VENTIMIGLIA BETWEEN TAKES
ADRIAN PASDAR ON SET
CRISTINE ROSE WAITS TO GO ON
VFX WHIZ ERIC GRENADIERE TAKES PHOTOS OF "THE SILVER BALL" (THIS OBJECT IS PHOTOGRAPHED BY THE VFX TEAM TO KNOW WHAT REFLECTIONS SHOULD OCCU R IN DIGITALLY CREATED OBJECTS!)
SEASON 3 EPISODE 23
“1961”
WARNING: IT’LL BE ON THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND SIXTY-ONE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN FORGIVE YOURSELF FOR READING SPOILERS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS BLOG THAT YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY UNPREPARED FOR!
Aron Coleite wrote tonight’s episode.
It was directed by Adam Kane.
As you may remember, Adam Kane was the director of photography on the HEROES pilot. This is the fourth episode he’s directed for us. He left in the middle of season two to be the director-producer on PUSHING DASIES and has since done several other projects. We missed him and are glad he’s back.
I want to focus today on two things… First, I want to focus on the enormous job accomplished by the art department on this episode, under the direction of Ruth Ammon. And, secondly, the good fortune we had in obtaining our young cast for this episode.
But before I can illuminate those two points, I must, for a moment, discuss the script. Aron Coleite’s, script was in some ways, very simple. It is actually a very contained story delving into the happenings in one location in two separate time periods. It is a quite compelling story and, I’m quite certain, long time fans will be quite compelled to learn about Angela’s history and of the formation of the Company.
Of course, from another point of view, it is one of the most complex projects we’ve done. The whole story takes place, almost completely in the internment camp called Coyote Sands. That internment camp is seen in the past of 1961, when it is brand new. It is also seen in the present day, when it is old and dilapidated. It also presented us with the very challenging task of giving over about a third of our episode to an all new teenage cast, which is tough enough, but to make it harder they would be playing characters that are already very well established.
Luckily we had an early heads up about this project. The writer’s room warned us it was coming – and Dennis Hammer sent out an alerting email in December, when we were still shooting episode #19. The locations department and the art department were instructed to at least think about the project and propose ideas, and our casting directors were instructed to begin thinking about who could play Young Angela, Angela’s sister, Linderman, Charles Deveaux, etc.
The script originally set the camp in White Sands New Mexico. Of course that was unfeasible on our scale, and Aron understood that. But we took that as an instruction to find a beautiful remote location with a unique look. Initially, we had the location department scout desert locations – but anything that looked good enough was an overnight stay away, and that was also untenable.
We also knew that once we had our spot, we’d have to go and actually construct the majority of the buildings. Any building that our cast interacted with or passed in front of we built. Any building that was purely in the background, would be created by our CGI team at Stargate,
Even though Coyote Sands plays a much larger part of episode 23 than it did in episode 22, we had to scout and select the location right at the very beginning of the prep of episode 22 (with director Jeannot Swzarc.) Adam Kane was in New York directing an episode of KINGS. We called him and briefed him on the script and told him, that, unfortunately, we would be selecting and moving forward on his key location before he got back from New York. He understood. I tried to have his back, as it were. The most important element for a large exterior project like this is the light. For both beauty and speed of shooting I tried to select a spot that faced southward, where the sun would backlight the set the majority of the day. We picked a location called Polsa Rosa, which is in the Antelope Valley about 50 miles North of Los Angeles. This is a large property, which is well kept up and is used frequently for filming. We’ve shot there for Mexico before. The location is not as remote as it seems on film. But the spot we selected was about three miles off the main highway, and a couple of, miles down a single-lane dirt road.
We brought photographs of the spot back to the team, and everyone agreed it was beautiful and that it would be our “Coyote Sands” camp.
Ruth studied Manzanar, and other Japanese Internment camps, from the World War II era. Fortunately, military architecture, by its nature, tends to be simple and designed to be easily replicated. She took a topographical map and laid out her design for the camp. She also used blueprints and foam models to lay out the design of the individual cabins.
Her original plan was to build about 8 full exterior cabins on location, and a larger building to be “Building 26” (where young Chandra Suresh runs experiments on the specials.) Because there were scenes where the cast traveled from interior to exterior one of the cabins was to have a partially finished interior.
The cabins also had to be seen in the past, newly constructed, and in the present dilapidated. We knew we’d have to build a turnaround time for this within the body of the episode. (i.e. we would have to shoot the cabins dilapidated first, then leave back to stages for a few days while the art department turned the cabins back around. Ruth’s original plan was also to build two full interior cabins. One old and dilapidated, and one new.
But of course, each piece of construction also carries a price - as it would for you if you were, say, remodeling your kitchen. Every wall, floor, surface and stairway has to be designed, cut, hammered together, assembled, surfaced and then decorated. On stage these costs are high enough – but on a remote location the price really soars. Each section of the cabin’s was going to have to be pre-cut and pre-fabricated by our carpenters in Hollywood, and then transported to the remote location an hour away. On location, Ruth laid out the plot of the camp with string. Postholes were dug and support beams were dropped into the ground. Once the pre-fabbed lumber was delivered there it had to be, re-assembled. Then it would have to be painted and surfaced on location and, despite our lead-time– from the time Ruth got the financial go-ahead – to the time we were shooting was just a matter of about two weeks.
But then budget realities kicked in… HEROES and all NBC shows are under super-tight financial constraints right now. This much construction was off the charts financially. So meetings and meetings and meetings took place with re-designs and re-designs and re-designs…. Ultimately, the size of the cabins became scaled back by 30%...eight cabins became 5. Building 26 became a same-sized cabin, and it even came to pass that Adam Kane had to be very specific about what angles he would shoot on location. We made it so that – if we weren’t going to see the back or side of a cabin we didn’t build it. On stage - Two cabins on stage became one, which had to be re-dressed both ways. (Similar restrictions and cuts were made in action and visual effects by the way – originally there was much more use of powers.) But anyway – we finally had an acceptable construction budget.
Then came the rain, the snow and the mud:
Of course Los Angeles is famous for it’s good weather – but the poor construction crew, which was already working seven days a week to get this project up fell under a deluge of rain – the likes of which we hadn’t seen in Los Angeles in years. They were working ten-hour days in sleeting rain, and the ground under their feet became a swamp of mud. The rain went on for days and days, and then the weather shifted in the high desert, and the rain became snow!
After it was all over, I overheard one of our lead carpenters saying to one of his men, “After season three, Hell holds no fear for the HEROES construction crew!”
I also need to mention the work done by Alexa Nikolas who plays Young Angela and Laura Marano, who plays her sister, Alice.
As I mentioned before, the idea of double casting a large portion of our cast, while fun on the page, struck me as potentially very dangerous. When casting the pilot, there were weeks and weeks available to toss ideas around, audition and re-audition actors and have “chemistry reads.” Here, even though our casting department had a lot of lead-time to think about it - we only had a week or two of actual auditions. (Remember we were still making episode 20 and 21 and 22 during this time frame – which were not small episodes.)
Anyway, our casting directors, Natalie Hart, Jason La Padura and Keri Owens did a great job finding kids for us. To my surprise, there were actually multiple choices available for most roles.
But I think we especially lucked out with Alexa Nikolas
I was somewhat familiar with her work because my kids used to watch the show she was on ZOEY 101. She is just a bright, intelligent and energetic young woman. Her audition was complex and also emotionally deep. There are a number of traps available to the unwary actor in this role. Angela, at that age, was not as firm or resolved as she is today (in fact that journey is one that Alexa had to make throughout the episode.) Angela is, at the very least – complex. Many actors played her either, too tough, or too emotional or they just read the words without a real sense of character. Anyway, Alexa navigated these treacherous waters quite well.
Cristine Rose wasn’t involved in the casting. But she was quite interested in supporting Alexa. There were two rehearsals, which Cristine came to and observed. Alexa and Adam and Joe and Cristine and I all had a nice conversation before and after these rehearsals about the character and about the scenes. I know Cristine and Alexa spent some time together and Cristine was on set observing quite a bit. There may have been a little nudge here or a little nudge there from some of us – but truthfully Alexa seemed to have the role firmly grasped and she made the work look easy. My experience with her is similar to my experience with many actors I’ve worked with who began acting at very early ages… Even very complex and emotional work seems to come to them very naturally and easily and seemingly with little effort. I’m always amazed by this (rare) phenomenon. Hayden Panettiere is certainly like this, and so was Allison Mack, who I worked with as Chloe on SMALLVILLE.
Okay enough about all that – why are you really here? We all know… THE PICTURES:
ADAM KANE (WITH D.P. CHARLIE LIEBERMAN) LINES UP A SHOT
ADAM KANE LINES UP ANOTHER SHOT
RUTH AMMON AND A MODEL OF THE SET
THE PRODUCTION MEETING (ADAM KANE, EXEC PRODUCER DENNIS HAMMER AND MYSELF)ALL WONDER "HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING????
.JPG)
TWO SISTERS
TAKING PHOTOS IN THE HIGH DESERT
ANOTHER DAY ON SET
MILO AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
ME AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
ME AND MILO AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
HAYDEN AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
EVERYBODY (BUT ME) CHILLIN' AT THE DINER IN THE DESERT
HAYDEN AND ADRIAN TOSS A PIGSKIN BETWEEN TAKES
MILO VENTIMIGLIA BETWEEN TAKES
ADRIAN PASDAR ON SET
CRISTINE ROSE WAITS TO GO ON
VFX WHIZ ERIC GRENADIERE TAKES PHOTOS OF "THE SILVER BALL" (THIS OBJECT IS PHOTOGRAPHED BY THE VFX TEAM TO KNOW WHAT REFLECTIONS SHOULD OCCU R IN DIGITALLY CREATED OBJECTS!)
Comments
This episode was wildly awesome. I didn't think this streak of fabulosity would hold up past the last two episodes (both of which were also beautiful - especially two weeks ago, just spectacularly written) but it TOTALLY DID. I especially loved the acting and old-timey art direction in this baby. The set dressers and construction guys are truly masters of their art (tell them so for me, won't you?).
Another thing, Christine Rose is the bomb. She was the only thing that made 'He's Just Not That Into You' remotely bearable. Her and Jennifer Connolly.
So yeah. In conclusion, KEEP IT UP! We could have a repeat of the kind of skill that Season 1 contained. And to think just a few weeks ago I feared for the life of the series!
Your longtime reader,
Reverend Phoebe Carrington Thatcher, Esquire
Also my favorite part was when Angela revealed the origins of her sock thieving :)
Great episode
PS I miss Linderman!
Love the actress who played young Angela, and the guy who played Charles was SPOT ON. Cristine, as usual, nailed all of the emotions Angela must have been going through, but I am curious as to why she smiled when she saw Sylar on TV.
Overall, I think this was kind of a so-so episode. Great direction, some nice scenes and tie-ins to S1 (especially the socks), but.... Okay, 6MA and Company Man already set the bar high, yet after watching "Villains" and now this episode, I'm wary of any upcoming flashback episodes.
Anyhow, enough fan babble.. Just happy to see the show is really back on the upswing (not that I ever doubted you all.. it just got.. convoluted..), but regardless, I'm really enjoying the current arc. And I'm scared of what they've awakened in Alice..!
Sounds like you guys had your fair share of trails in making this episode, and it's interesting to hear how you overcame the issues with budget. Well done to all! Looking forward to the last two episodes and all of next season!
I felt it was packed with terrible dialogue and too much exposition. Show me, don't tell me. Show me what these experiments were that were so horrible. Show me what make the kids want to start a revolution in the first place. Show me the horror of what went down. Show me.
And for God's sake, the sock moment between sisters? Too many words. That part of the scene, with those two actresses emoting like that? Angela should have stopped talking for a minute after saying "I have socks for you." Instead we got this huge Basil-exposition group of sentences that explained the emotions we were already watching. A big silent pause there would have been a powerful moment. Instead she never stopped talking, all the way up to "I lied to you." The impact of all of it fell flat, as did the "You, You, You" stuff.
Show me, don't tell me. What seems necessary in the writer's room is not always necessary on the screen.
Nice tie-in to season 1 with Angela revealing why she was nicking socks (great touch).
Good episode.
Okay, okay, villify a character of colour through a retcon, whatever it takes to make Angela into a victim, who previously wanted to destroy New York and had an innocent woman killed by Sylar just for the heck of it.
I really wonder which of the few remaining characters of colour will be sacrificed at the end of the season, to enable another season of Petrellis, Petrellis, Petrellis!
I wouldn't normally post any comments, but this episode was fantastic.
Can you say JUMP THE SHARK?
I mean what happened to the writers from the first season?
The Dialouge was absolutely terrible.
Sets, costumes, actors. FX, everything is there, (Except for Hayden's hair, it looks terrible, we ALL notice, stop with the wig already!!) and is very well done. THE STORIES THOUGH?
There just too unbeleivable, too stupid, and make no sense.
So Angela's sister has been hiding at this place for 50 years? do we need more characters?
Your writers are destroying the show we all USED to Love
One more season to redeem yourselves, if not its over
Mark my words, Fonzy was in last nights crapisode
Ive been watching since DAY 1 of this show.
but the explanation from HRG to Suresh about the entire episode in three wuick sentences during a howling storm? COME ON.
Too Little too late and suresh being there was pretty pointless YEah his father was the original docotr, who cares!
ANd now NAthan is just trying to redeem himself, Peter gets over it and there brothers again?
I could keep going with all the flaws in last nights epsidoe, but you'll jsut read the glwoing suck off reviews from the teenies whot hink Milo and HAyden Are SO CUTE
Pathetic episode last night, PATHETIC!
Another MAJOR question is Angela said in Season 2 that ADAM MONROE was the one who bought them all together =.= not them having an aweful expereice and then making a little "happy Tree Friends" type of gang. Unless Adam bought the gang of Angela, Charles, Linderman and Bob together with Arthur and the other founders to make the 12 founders?
if so then xD Arthur, Taieko and the others were such NOOBS and LOOSERS for either dying or being sidelined because in all the time of heroes ive only ever seen Angela Bob Linderman do any long term management at the Company.
But all in all. it was a not so bad episode. but i would realli like the emotional development to episode 20 and PICK UP THE PACE AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE AWESOME FINALE!
Thanks a lot!!! hugs!!!! monica
thanks, sci fi girl-Poppy
Looking forward to the last episodes; next week's looks insane!
Btw Christine Rose is an excellent actress.
DFG3
And not because he's a person of color, for god's sake, anon, the writers are not out to get you because of the pigmentation of your skin. Because the dead father is never who he seems, and the fact that he, up until this point, was portrayed as entirely the victim was rather disappointing to me. Now we know that he was ruthless in his pursuit of knowledge, he was willing to set aside his morality for what he believed to be the greater good, and, yes, he most likely was partially responsible for the birth of Sylar as we know him today. And none of that changes the fact that Chandra pushed Mohinder away to keep him from becoming just like him - which, ironically, Momo now has.
Just ... agh. I love it so much, and I can't wait to see the repercussions it will have for Mohinder's character. And what he'll have to say about it when he sees Sylar again.
...he'll see Sylar again, yes?
Though, I am a little curious as to why they didn't kill him outright. I'm assuming it's because he thought he was doing the right thing. You know, heart in the right place, 'you're a good man,' that schtick.
Didn't made sense for me why were the childs separated from the parents. If i were invited to somewhere then separated from my daughters (not allowed) i wouldn't need any nightmare's to know something not right.
Although I have to agree with the continuity mistakes most people are pointing ( specially with Chandra's timeline and the Company's origin ) it was a great, great great episode, wonderfully done, full of answers and with lots of emotional moments. Now I can't wait to see what you have for us in the next two episodes right before the season finale.
I don't want to annoy you with this but once again ( and this is the fourth time ) I'm leaving here my email. You would really, really make veeeeery happy if you send me an email and tell me how to contact you, Tim Kring or someone else form the NBC. I want to tell you everything we europenan and latin amercian fans think about the show, and share some awesome ideas with you about many things (specially about how to make us a stronger parto of the show's fanbase, 'cause we just love it and want to show our support) So, here it is:
oooaaappss@hotmail.com
Still waiting for you. It would make me sooo happy, Mr. Beeman.
You know, I don't care about intent, fact is Heroes has become abysmal at handling minorities. Or women. A good writer should be aware of the unfortunate implications of his work, period. No ifs, no buts. Heroes is badly failing.
I am trying to come to terms with te possibility that they'll never continue that storyline.
I still have hope for the show ('Cold Snap', the best episode for around 2 volumes, convinced me the show can still produce corking episodes).
In any case, is it really a plothole if Chandra didn't mention the camps or previous knowledge of the specials. Seems to me that after such a slaughter, one would certainly be excited to find more people with powers to study, or that his new means of finding them through the human genome project proves true. No, I don't think that's such a sizable plot hole at all. But hey, if people want to damn the series through internet opinion, they will, eh? Cheers,
GB
This isn't a minor plot hole, it's part of a huge retcon of everything surrounding a once-major character.
Imagine that Maya was a white man who clutched at relationships, albeit unhealthy ones, to feel a sense of safety and security in an unfamiliar country and frightening situation, and left on a bus when his storyline had run its course, and was no longer relevant to the overarching plot of the show.
Imagine that Mohinder was a young white American scientist who was naive and sheltered, who wanted to do what was right, and ended up thrown into a chaotic and confusing situation in which he had no power over his circumstances, or over what other people did to him. He tried to do what was right, and failed. He tried to get more power, and ended up losing control of himself and hurting innocent people. Recently, he learned that his (white, American) father had not been the pinnacle of morality, as he had always believed; that he had spent his life following a flawed example. All of this building up to an episode of soul-searching that will leave him a stronger character for the next volume. Not to mention, this reinforces the show's motifs of parents vs. children, and overcoming past precedent to become something greater, bringing the character back into the greater scheme of the show.
Would you be complaining? No.
Try stepping away from instantaneously assuming that the writers are working from outdated stereotypes; the defensiveness and attacks on their character are uncalled for, and do nothing for the point that you're trying to make. I, personally, would love to see some gay on my favorite show, as we have gotten nothing up until this point, but I'm not so starved for persecution that I assume the writers are homophobic.
I'm long-winded, I know, but my point is this: if you want the rest of the world to leave racism and sexism behind, stop seeing them in everything, and accusing of them people who mean perfectly well, and are staying true to the characters they have created for your entertainment.
And I know the writers said there are no Mylar plans for volume four, but they're heading back to the drawing board for volume five, so hey. A girl can hope.
Better yet, quit bitching into a comment box, get off your ass, and go make a difference in the real world.
If not, your trolling is in top form.
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